Thread 16722901

How do we reduce the suffering of animals in the wild?

>>16722901 (OP)
we need to constantly spray them with airborne tranquilizers and painkillers

>>16722925
Lmao

>>16722901 (OP)
How do you know they're even suffering?

>>16722901 (OP)
kill all the people on earth

>>16722901 (OP)
Kill the rich.

Also kill the priests.

>And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

>So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

>And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

>And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

Literally nothing, struggle is the nature of being born.
So the closest you could get is wiping out all sentient life and just create a world with only plants and fungi n' shit with zero suffering. But that wouldn't really solve the problem since sentience could just evolve again, whether here or on some other habitable planet 5 billion light years away

Vaccines.

>>16722901 (OP)
In the future with nanomachines

>>16722901 (OP)
Complicated subject, which probably has more basis on >>>/his/ than here. As much as "make it better for them" is something that should be achievable with simple procedural steps, the concept of suffering and what improvement really looks like is much more philosophical than scientific.

>>16722901 (OP)
jrpg boss: kil all the anmals

>>16722901 (OP)
We extinct ourselves

>>16722901 (OP)
>How do we reduce the suffering of animals in the wild?
Eat them.

>>16722901 (OP)
AI god will grant them sentience.

>>16722901 (OP)
government funded competitions to sponsor a bunch of different humanitarian projects that can help find ideal solutions for what/how to terraform landscapes that incorporates creating agricultural ecosystems alongside "habitable" environments that function somewhere between an open field saying "ok, i'll be back to get you in a few years when I'm ready to eat you", but not completely withholding any semblance of humane living so that it's life is just "be born in perpetual darkness with intolerable living conditions and constantly infused with 'special growth serum' until the merciful Lord in Cloud City blesses you with the sweet blissful comfort of death."; you know, middle of the road, somewhere right down the center.

Catalyze mass expansion for agri programs where different combinations of different plants(it's a lot) are planted in as many different biomes(both natural/artificial) and are administered different growth protocols with different combinations of 'nutrients'- iterate infinitum, essentially.

If you wanted to see more communal 'water features' like some lakes and streams/rivers, we could consider routing communal waters through more near-surfaced channels, and consider having multiple smaller treatment filtration stations, if not do individual responsibility for filtering whatever comes out of your pipes.

>>16723819
I can physically HEAR that sign in ringing in my hears,
just ASKING FOR IT,
practically begging me to do it,
taunting even.
God I just want to go RAKE that forest like you wouldn't believe.
Would make it easier to identify the property line too, I'm sure. I'd be doing a favor.

>If a tree falls in the forest...
haha, I wouldn't worry about it

>>16722904
At first I was like: why facepalm? But then I was like: every intervention is a kind of management that brings the wild one step closer to a zoo. Next I was like surprised Pikachu face because we're basically already managing all ecosystems on planet Earth in some way because we're foolish enough to believe that we know what's best for nature. So a bunch of monkeys who think they're smart are managing other monkeys. We're so fucked.

>>16722901 (OP)
EAs like David Pearce want to engineer their genes so they can't suffer. And humans too.

>>16722901 (OP)
you can't unless you wipe them. you will statistically spare more animals suffering by wiping all vs not doing it, given enough time.
it's hard to reason/change their behavior. this is probably true for a lot of humans as well. it's a hard problem to solve with a happy ending for everyone/everything. you clearly need to intervene and philosocucks will melt down about muh choice and shit.

>>16722901 (OP)
eat them, less animals, more food for other animals, less suffering, your belly more full, win-win

>>16723692
Because they are dying from:
>>16722925
>chemtrails

>>16727363
But it has anesthetics. Its what nerves crave.

>>16722901 (OP)
virus bombing

>Wolves and sheep will live together in peace, and leopards will lie down with young goats. Calves and lion cubs will feed together, and little children will take care of them.
>Isaiah 11:6
Science must usher in the Kingdom of God if suffering in nature is to end.

>>16722901 (OP)
Instrumentality

>>16724329
yes, it so happens that smart monke is very dumb monke, if you want to help animals make sure their environment, space and territory is heatlhy for them, a healthy trophic chain is also important, since it'll keep overpopulation in check, but even that is fragile, since wolves and bears will do that job, but are a threat to us
it's complicated

>>16722901 (OP)
We don’t we just let it be. Solving problems got us in this mess in the first place. Everything will fix itself. Gods will.

There is no magic wand to solve the worlds problems.

>"The total amount of suffering per year in the natural world is beyond all decent contemplation. During the minute that it takes me to compose this sentence, thousands of animals are being eaten alive, others are running for their lives, whimpering with fear, others are being slowly devoured from within by rasping parasites, thousands of all kinds are dying of starvation, thirst and disease. It must be so." Richard Dawkins River Out of Eden (1995)
Compassionate Biology https://www.gene-drives.com/

>>16724327
>forest
A tree farm isn't a forest.
Tree farms have no understory or ground cover because the trees are grown so close together that light can't reach. In some of them you need a flashlight in the middle of the day. There is a poverty of life besides trees.

>>16727536
>Gods will.
Schizo posts go in /x/

>>16723692
Because they have brains and nervous systems retard

>>16728602
>Excuse to hate nature and stay inside and chronically online and tolerate environmental destruction.
>I'm not a demoralization shill, honest!

>>16722901 (OP)
Capture them all. Zero animals in the wild means zero suffering animals in the wild.

Reducing the suffering of animals in captivity is left as an exercise for the reader.

>>16722901 (OP)
https://www.mlive.com/news/2025/06/not-your-average-creepy-crawly-parasite-winter-ticks-kill-michigans-moose.html

Not your average ‘creepy-crawly:’ Winter ticks kill Michigan’s moose
Updated: Jun. 11, 2025, 12:33 p.m.|Published: Jun. 11, 2025, 11:54 a.m.
Winter ticks impact Michigan's moose herd
A GPS-collared bull moose shows 25-30% hair loss in this photo. The hair loss is a visible sign of winter tick infestation, which can impact moose health and survival. TheMichigan DNR
By Justine Lofton | jlofton@mlive.com
This tiny parasite can cause moose deaths.

Michigan’s most in-depth study to date into why the moose population in Michigan’s Upper Peninsula is stagnant is looking at several factors that could be impacting mortality, including winter ticks, according to the Michigan Department of Natural Resources, which provided an update today.

“Disclaimer: We’re diving into the creepy-crawly world of ticks,” the DNR said on Facebook. “Side effects may include phantom itching, involuntary shudders, and saying ‘ew’ out loud. You’ve been warned.”

The post was in response to questions about the impact of winter ticks on the moose population after officials provided an update on the study in May. That report included the births of nine calves and the deaths of two.

The study began in February when 20 moose were fitted with GPS collars.

Winter ticks are “not your average tick,” and “may be one of several potential factors impacting health and survival of Michigan’s moose herd,” the DNR said.

The small parasite can cause big problems for moose, sometimes leading to their deaths.

In March, researchers flew thermal sensing drones and captured aerial images of collared moose. They were looking for signs of winter tick infestation. Some of the moose photographed had lost 25-30% of their coats due to intensely grooming themselves due to the itching triggered by the tick infestations.

>>16723793
>all
Not all. Just a good 60%. I'll just get called edgy but Thanos honestly had a decent idea. I don't think you have to zap the entire universe though but 55-60% of the earth's population disappearing over night would certainly improve the planet's health.

>>16729055
Actually, on second thought, this would only work if the 40% left actually gives a fuck, so you'd have to Thanos snap the right people. If the people who actually give a fuck about the planet are in that 60%, then we're just right back to square one.

>>16729058
airborne Ebola could get the job done but only via shotgun approach... perhaps divine intervention could engineer it to target only the a-holes.

>>16722901 (OP)
Kill every wild animal you see (humanely)

>>16727415
Leopards had sex with young goats?

Why are scientists too fucking stupid to find a treatment for rabies? It literally shouldn't be that hard.

>>16722901 (OP)
move humans off Earth and then build a bunch of orbital mirrors to increase Earth's temperature to initiate a runaway greenhouse that vaporises the oceans and sterilises all life on the planet.
develop interstellar travel and do the above to any planet deemed now or one day capable of supporting life.