Increasing evidence has been mounting suggesting that certain species of animals have language. They communicate to each other in patterns which can be highly correlated as speech using modern data-crunching methods (in particular machine learning).

These computerized language-interpretation technologies will continue to be developed as part of an ongoing scientific endeavor, and likely eventually facilitate communication between a human operator and an animal subject.

Now this raises an important philosophical question. What happens when inevitably a human and an animal express sexual interest in each other and verbally confirm consent?

>>16723011 (OP)
>Increasing evidence has been mounting suggesting that certain species of animals have language.
post the research articles that show this

The language in question:
>unga bunga
>sheeeeeeeeeit
>ack
>bruh
>aye

>>16723018
elephants are more sophisticated than this.

>>16723011 (OP)
An adult human and a minor can also express sexual interest in each other and verbally confirm consent, but we still consider it unacceptable because of the differences in maturity and social power.

>>16723011 (OP)
>SOURCE: YOUR ASS

>>16723161
Maturity and social power present significant vectors for abuse, but do not necessitate abuse, the same way Internet access presents a significant vector for grooming, but does not necessitate grooming.

Dolphins even have regional languages and probably slang.

fr fr on god

>>16723018
they’re whales not niggers anon

>>16723431
Yep, in the brief work I did involving dolphin communication the pricks lied to each other via misidentification in the pursuit of food resource

I.e. dolphin 1 and dolphin 2 and relaying where food is, dolphin 3 overhears this and mimics dolphin 1 or 2, secures food

They’re just as crooked as anyone else

>>16723737
it was a prank

>>16723428
True, but there are certain cases where the differential is large enough that the possibility of meaningful consent can be considered unlikely.

>>16723011 (OP)
They must communicate somehow to organize. Most animals are social so it makes sense they would have some sort of language.

>>16723011 (OP)
>certain species of animals have language
Yeah they're called humans.

>>16723903
>can be considered unlikely.
What do you base this on? Social power and maturity have no direct relationship with consent, or rather, I can also argue someone who is mature is going to be more mindful about crossing one's boundaries, so their ability to respect the other's consent can be considered of greater value.
If you're basing it on real-world statistics, keep in mind that statutory rape is both a serious crime and an extreme taboo in almost all parts of the world, meaning you're running into selection bias that shows a preference for asocial or mentally unwell partners.

Manipulation and a disregard for one's interests and conditions are the actual key factors for consent, which is why it's commonly reported in adult-minor relationships; due to criminality and social stigma, people who will engage in this activity are of inferior character and are much more likely to suffer from ASPD or other psychological disorders.

>>16724162
most humans do not have meaningful or useful language

>>16724103
I don't think swimming in formation requires a lot of talking

>>16723011 (OP)
I should have known the post was gonna end like that. I should have known.

>>16724282
It's a reasonable question

>>16724163
Even if that weren't the case, a large power differential makes consent questionable. There's a reason why we frown on it.

>>16724710
who defines power differential and under which axis?if one person has more economical power and the other has better social position, who is over whom?

>>16725193
I would say the physical power of the large animal generally outweighs the human's power

>>16723011 (OP)

>>16724103
social fun with animals

>>16723011 (OP)
>Increasing evidence has been mounting suggesting that certain species of animals have language. They communicate to each other in patterns which can be highly correlated as speech using modern data-crunching methods (in particular machine learning).
>These computerized language-interpretation technologies will continue to be developed as part of an ongoing scientific endeavor, and likely eventually facilitate communication between a human operator and an animal subject.
and while that is interesting
>Now this raises an important philosophical question. What happens when inevitably a human and an animal express sexual interest in each other and verbally confirm consent?
STOP BEING A FURRY

>>16723175
https://gbegus.github.io/assets/pdf/iscience.pdf

>>16729075
No, furries want to fuck anthropomorphized animals, someone who wants to fuck just plain animals is a zoophile. Big difference between Maid Marian from Robin Hood, and Lassie.

>>16729119
>someone who wants to fuck just plain animals is a zoophile

>>16729141
I don't understand your reaction in this context.

>>16723161
maybe utter phonology that mimics affirmation of consent, but they cannot give it, hence why there is youth courts and age restrictions on the nuclear football (even though giving nukes to a 12 year old is a much more effective MAD strategy)

>>16723011 (OP)
i'm really looking forward to when the vatican starts broadcasting the gospels in whale and see if any of them start preaching to other whales about the the Lorde and if they have opinions on the conception of the creator and of divinity

>>16730414
hopefully that stops japan from murdering whales

>>16730414
Human religious systems are far too anthroprocentric, any translation into whalespeak would lose much of its intended meaning