>millions of years of evolution
>still gets cancer and dies
am I crazy for thinking human body is not miraculous at all?

>>16729343 (OP)
Nah, the human body is pretty whacky. Cancer just scratches the surface.

>>16729343 (OP)
>I believe in evolution!
>Why do we die so that newer genetic patterns have a fair chance to develop and spread?

>>16729370
strawman.

just eat your broccoli, drink water and walk bro. its not that hard to avoid cancer

>>16729370
Even one successful immortality in nature should be almost enough for a specie to win the evolution scramble and spread through the world.

>>16729343 (OP)
>millions of years of evolution
>still gets cancer and dies
>am I crazy?

I'm under the impression this is a personal health issue, exacerbated possibly by poor breeding, and not necessarily something seeded into us as an earnest design flaw.
We probably don't eat enough vegetables and lean meat, we eat way too much process food and red meat, we're absolutely not getting enough exercise, I guarantee (you) personally aren't drinking enough water, microplastics are going to become a bigger and bigger problem, and even air quality can also be pretty spotty. We just surround ourselves with carcinogenic substances and lifestyle. Of course we get cancer and dies.

>>16729343 (OP)
I strongly believe that cancer has a direct link to the chemicals used on plants and animals. Like insecticides on plants and certain medications used on animals to make them grow faster and bulkier.

>>16729927
Immortality means that evolution halts. The immortal ancestor consumes resources that her descendants could use, reducing the odds of offspring to survive and reproduce regardless of their own mutations, it's a clear evolutionary disadvantage
What organisms evolve the fastests? Bacteria. Why? Because they split themselves in half as soon as they can. The parent cell doesn't even exist anymore, it's part of both child cells
>but dying is an evolutionary disadvantage
Evolution does not care about the individual, only his DNA. If you live forever but your DNA doesn't spread then you are an evolutionary failure

>>16729927
Immortality means no adaptation.

>>16729343 (OP)
>thinks his current species is an End State
evolution is constant, but only occurs on the scale of geologic time. though, as serious hikers say, geologic time includes Now.
we still get cancer because we haven't evolved past it yet. it's also possible that we never will, since it doesn't often strike people before child-rearing age.
Everything about the human body as it exists now is the intersection of coincidences that mutated into previous generations, eons ago.

>>16729343 (OP)
death is a part of life

>>16729927
why would imoortality allow something to out-compete its competitors?

>>16730455
Lack of aging - less death - more spread. Sure, the immortal species will have to compete with its offsprings for resources, but they still might evolve and adapt and just replace the previous generation by killing it and consuming, turning into even more resources.

>>16730459
living forever disincentivizes procreation.
we already have immortal species, namely certain kinds of jellyfish and tortoises

>>16730459
>Lack of aging - less death - more spread.
you are forgetting about predation, disease, and fatal injury
there are, in fact, suspected examples of immortal organisms, but they don't dominate the globe

>>16729343 (OP)
Maybe it's just natures way of getting rid of boomers. Maybe the reason for the fermi paradox is everyone eventually invents anti-ageing and society stagnates.

>>16730469
>disease
wtf do you think cancer is?

>>16729343 (OP)
Except we haven't even had 3 generations to evolve to the cancer causing agents unleashed by trillions of megatons of newly discovered radioactive bomb tests which are the obvious cause of most of the modern cancer population explosions.

>>16729343 (OP)
you're meant to get cancer or some other terminal issues at least approaching your twilight years.
evolution doesn't want you to become competition for your own offspring and doesn't care about you suffering to alleviate this.

>>16731758
Ok so if you avoid cancer and cardiac arrest wtf are you gonna die from?