Is this real?
Why cant we adjust the chemicals and electrical signals in our brain to cure all mental illnesses?

>>16730193 (OP)
>Your deepest and most innate beliefs can be tweaked by adjusting the chemicals and electric signals that your brain receives

>>16730193 (OP)
>Souls don't biologically exist
no experiment that set out to prove the soul exists have ever found evidence of it's existence.
>Consciousness isn't real
That's a stretch and probably more of a philosophy discussion than a science discussion.
>Your deepest and most innate beliefs can be tweaked by adjusting the chemicals and electric signals that your brain receives
Yes, if the existence of DMT and Iboga wasn't enough, then it should suffice to know that experiencing traumatic events alters brain chemistry enough to change people's behaviour.

>>16730231
>>16730215
the standard schizo/retard response to this argument is the signal-receiver cope
there, that'll be the thread

>>16730193 (OP)
>Why cant we adjust the chemicals and electrical signals in our brain to cure all mental illnesses?
We have every reason to believe this is possible. We just don't know how, yet.

>>16730193 (OP)
Getting the right chemicals and signals to the right parts of the brain at the right time while dealing with the fact that the brain wasn't set up to accept those chemical and signals from the sources and in the amounts you're introducing them, at least without invoking responses and feedback loops which thwart your efforts.

>>16730193 (OP)
because mental health and addiction isn't real. not saying it isn't a dog eat dog world. because it is.i think, weak people gravitate towards things that doesn't make them stronger.

gang banging is real. when you're alone in the woods in summer time don't the mosquitos gang bang the shit out of you?

crime isn't real either. but a jail cell is definitely real.

>>16730215
>>Your deepest and most innate beliefs can be tweaked by adjusting the chemicals and electric signals that your brain receives
some people are cowards and some people are soldiers. you can't turn a coward into a soldier.

>>16730193 (OP)
I imagine your consciousness is in slivers. like... if someone stabbed me or shot me tonight. my consciousness would be reduced significantly to the point where i'd be more dead then alive. like...barely able to walk down a road.

kind of like hitpoints in a video game

>>16730342
sure you can, that is the entire military onboarding process you idgit

>>16730342
>boomer platitude
OK

>>16730215
When I was put on Prozac, it was like I was a completely different person. I didn’t feel anything at all. I no longer cared about the people closest to me. Once I went off I started feeling normal again

>>16730328
Sounds right
Doing more damage than good is probably par for the course when you're introducing chemicals and electricity to the brain

>>16730193 (OP)
We have mastered surgery for decades now and we understand cancer pretty well too, why can't we just cut the cancerous cells out?
We understand all the math and we have working models of fusion, why can't we create our own miniature suns?
Describing how something works and being able to influence it are world's appart, and we're far from fully understanding the brain either. We sure can give people electric signals and chemicals that change how they think, but we can't really control or target specific changes

>>16730193 (OP)
Shutting down parts of the brain makes you less racist

>>16730560
>why can't we just cut the cancerous cells out?
We literally can. I had a skin cancer, cut it out, and am alive 10 years later which basically means it wont come back.

>>16730601
This isn't true. Skin cancer is the most recurring form. This is your mind on science.

mm

>>16730193 (OP)
My theoretical model of everything explains what a "soul" would be.

>>16730193 (OP)
So this is where we're at. Anons taking screenshots of posts and posting those screenshots elsewhere to fragment a conversation. All because anon is too retarded to know how to research a topic. It's so fucking joever

>>16730193 (OP)
>consciousness isn't real because i can use electromagnets to give you brain damage and make you an atheist like myself
That's not exactly a sound argument.

>>16730193 (OP)
how do he explain psychic dogs?

>>16730456
>When I was put on Prozac, it was like I was a completely different person. I didn’t feel anything at all. I no longer cared about the people closest to me. Once I went off I started feeling normal again
All examples consciousness deniers can provide will be like this. It always involves crippling someone and then claiming it's a changed personality. Might as well kill someone and claim you changed their beliefs/personality to that of an inanimate lump of organic matter.

>>16730193 (OP)
ironically if you take a psychology class will learn that electro-shock therapy "cures" pretty much every kind of mental disorder. Unfortunately it is short lived however

>>16730193 (OP)
No experiment has changed someone's beliefs that is nonsense

>>16730984
>Chemicals don't alter consciousness
>*gives an example of chemicals altering consciousness*
>NOOO NOT LIKE THAT!!!!
cope

>>16730193 (OP)
Cartesian Dualism faces a lot of problems but on the other hand it's tough to definitively disprove since neuroscience still isn't great.

>>16730384
>I didn't understand the comment
You're throwing too wide a net with your interpretation of "coward."

>>16730193 (OP)
Why can't we just reprogram our bodies to cure all cancers? The answer is the same, we're trying but shit is complex and unpredictable.

>>16730193 (OP)
Mental illness doesn't biologically exist and is just a formalized, passive aggressive modern way of saying you don't like someone.
>yess goy, let me correct those bad throughts in your brain with my chemicals and electroshocks
I hope you get shot by whoever you try to do this to

>>16730984
>Might as well kill someone and claim you changed their beliefs/personality to that of an inanimate lump of organic matter.
This is literally how "people" like >>16731363 reason, brain damage the patient until they're too low IQ to comprehend their problems, and proclaim they're cured.

Psychiatrists need to hang from street lamps and it needs to happen within the next 100 years, no more reforms, no pinky swears that they'll be good again, they had like three second chances already. Mental healthism is a virulent, destructive religion like Islam and deserves the same treatment from anyone remotely rational.

>>16730560
>why can't we create our own miniature suns?
We basically can, but its not really a sun if its miniature, the massive scale is what defines the sun as the sun.

>>16730603
Yea recurring as in it was cut out and more grew.

>>16730983
Criminals and sickly and whatnot have a particular smell that is too complex for humans but able to be discerned by dogs, so its not exactly psychic, they are just picking up on physical cues you are missing.

>>16730603
>most recurring
Which means it doesn't always recur which means that sometimes they do cut it out and its gone completely afterwards.