Non-ape human evolution theories? - /sci/ (#16731145)

Anonymous
7/22/2025, 6:24:36 PM No.16731145
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Are there any hypotheses that posit that the different human races, or maybe a lost hominid ancestor were, basically, heavily related to regional animal species? This presupposes pangensis. To be clearer: I think that different human groups evolved from different animals over an immense time span. For example, it is pretty obvious that southeast asians are like fish. Euros are like wolves and bears. SSAs clearly apes etc etc. I know, I know .... but, has this ever been considered?
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 7:31:42 PM No.16731176
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>>16731145 (OP)
You are going a little too far with it. To answer your question, different races DID evolve from different species, but they were all in the homo genus, and in the end, the dominating race was still homo sapien. For example, Europeans, Asians (East and South), and indigenous peoples of the Americas share up to 5% neanderthal DNA. Similarly, Melanesians (e.g., Papua New Guinea, Aboriginal Australians), Southeast Asians, some East Asians (to a lesser degree), and indigenous populations of the Philippines (like the Ayta) share up to 6% Denisovan DNA. African populations contain up to 7% DNA from either Homo heidelbergensis or Homo naledi, but we can't say for sure because we don't have any fossil proof for the Africans.

I am really simplifying this btw. All of these Homo species I mentioned came from Homo erectus. Meaning that all races originated from Homo erectus. Homo erectus came from Homo australopithecus, who came from the great apes. We all likely originated from the same group of around 200 chimpanzees who's rainforest in East Africa was becoming a savannah, so we had to evolve to learn how to walk and use tools to survive.
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 8:43:36 PM No.16731252
Yes. This man has been talking about it for years.

https://macroevolution.net/

People have a bit of pig in them. There is also a politically sensitive conclusion to draw too. One human subspecies may be less than a thousand years old.
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 8:48:19 PM No.16731255
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>>16731252
We split from pigs about 80 million years ago, while we split from apes about 8 million years ago. If you want to get technical about it, we have a little bit of every single living thing on earth in us apart from viruses.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 1:30:36 AM No.16731460
>>16731145 (OP)
Pretty sure this is what everybody believed 100 years ago. It is called eugenics and it has been heavily disproven
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 2:16:58 AM No.16731495
>>16731176
Op here thank you for the nice response. I am aware of the hominids interbreeding etc. So, if that is all true, then wouldn’t there be a “true” homo sapien only branch out there? It seems odd to say that a homo sapien is really just different mixes of different somewhat related hominids. Where is the true “human?” Also, how can the huge differences between, let’s say the Chinese diaspora and the Frank/Dane diaspora, really boil down to “it sure is sandy and windy over there.”
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 2:30:43 AM No.16731501
>>16731495
>then wouldn’t there be a “true” homo sapien only branch out there?
Historically yes, in modern day no.
> It seems odd to say that a homo sapien is really just different mixes of different somewhat related hominids.
Why?
>Where is the true “human?”
When does the sand become a heap?
>Also, how can the huge differences between, let’s say the Chinese diaspora and the Frank/Dane diaspora, really boil down to “it sure is sandy and windy over there.”
You'll have to be more specific, what differences do you think are not explained by this + time?
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 5:12:09 AM No.16732427
>>16731176
Looking at this chart I think I've realized how we as humans developed a primal aversion to uncanny features

Imagine being a semi-aware homo-habilis and seeing a boisei, that's basically like coming across a fuckin alien and you're both highly aware of eachothers existence
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 10:24:54 AM No.16732507
>>16731252
That man is insane though
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 10:29:08 AM No.16732510
>>16731495
>Where is the true “human?”
There likely isn’t a single person alive who doesn’t have at least one ancestor who was a Neanderthal, Denisovan, etc. But even if you did find one there would have been interbreeding that occurred long before in even more primitive species like H. erectus with H. heidelbergensis or something
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 2:27:28 PM No.16732597
>>16732510
>There likely isn’t a single person alive who doesn’t have at least one ancestor who was a Neanderthal, Denisovan, etc

But the majority of Africans don't have either DNA tho. europeans have magnon/neanderthal, asians have neanderthal and denosovan and africans depending on what tribe is sequenced have an unknown interbreeding member.
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 8:26:15 PM No.16732823
>>16732597
That’s why I said etc. We probably interbred with even more hominids than just those three and just don’t know it yet