Thread 16733184 - /sci/

Anonymous
7/25/2025, 8:15:48 AM No.16733184
Epsilon
Epsilon
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OK, hear me out. Imagine if we made a number really, really small. Like imagine a small number, but smaller than that.

Now, this number is not zero, but it's so small that if you squared it, it would become zero.

What do you think?
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 8:31:36 AM No.16733193
e != 0
e * e = 0
e = 0 / e = 0

don't work, yo. you'll need to propose variations on arithmetic operations. what ever you come up with (assuming what you propose is consistent), it won't be a field or act like one.
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 9:10:58 AM No.16733212
>>16733184 (OP)
That's not how it works, retard.
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 9:17:33 AM No.16733214
>>16733184 (OP)
You can do so. It has been done.
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 11:06:02 AM No.16733276
>>16733184 (OP)
op is testing whether sci has heard about dual numbers.
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 11:25:20 AM No.16733281
>>16733184 (OP)
tis called dual numbers
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 12:57:40 PM No.16733328
ITT: people getting filtered by non-Archimedean fields.
Replies: >>16733382 >>16733420 >>16733591
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 2:01:43 PM No.16733361
>>16733184 (OP)
Based. Sounds like it has applications in perturbative physics, specifically pQCD
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 2:05:05 PM No.16733363
>>16733361
Yes, quantum is full of such hacks to make it work.
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 2:45:52 PM No.16733382
>>16733328
Fields don't have zero-divisors, dickhead.
Replies: >>16733415 >>16733430 >>16734033
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 2:46:49 PM No.16733383
>>16733184 (OP)
So it's a positive number. Might as well be 100.
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 3:41:17 PM No.16733415
>>16733382
Keyword was "non-Archimedean" anyway, not field, retard.
Replies: >>16733437 >>16733509
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 3:46:27 PM No.16733420
>>16733328
if it has nilpotents it ain't a field
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 4:07:39 PM No.16733430
>>16733382
>you can't divide by zero because... umm... you just can't, ok?
>no, you're not allowed to compile an internally-consistent set of grammatical, syntactic, and logical rules that turn division by zero into a meaningful mathematical operation... because... ummm... YOU JUST CAN'T, OKAY?
I bet you also believe the moon landing never happened because heavier-than-air flying machines are physically impossible.
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 4:15:08 PM No.16733434
>>16733184 (OP)
I saw this in a taylor series, it's not a novel idea
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 4:18:16 PM No.16733437
>>16733430
Nobody mentioned division by zero, you sped.
>>16733415
A non-archimedean field is a field, smoothbrain.
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 6:08:05 PM No.16733509
>>16733415
i was first to respond, and i considered non-archimedean fields, however the definition for those does not use 0, which is a special and unique number in a field. therefore, what OP is asking isn't the same as considering if a field is archimedean or not. the litmus test for an archimedean field is that there exists a number n such that x * n > y for any x and y, which is very different than asking if you square a number it gives you 0.
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 6:35:30 PM No.16733525
>>16733430
zero divisors are niggas a & b that when multiplied equal zero yet neither a or b are zero, you retard, & what's worse you just made the projective & affinely extended reals sound rely fucking faggy, do better
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 8:11:41 PM No.16733591
>>16733328
rings. not fields, rings.
Replies: >>16733632
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 9:06:12 PM No.16733632
>>16733591
ah, i haven't studied rings nearly as much as groups and fields
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 6:10:17 AM No.16733967
congratulations! you're doing math like a physicist
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 8:37:23 AM No.16734033
>>16733437
>Nobody mentioned division by zero, you sped.
Then what did the anon they replied to mention >>16733382?
Replies: >>16734053
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 8:40:19 AM No.16734035
>>16733184 (OP)
>a number really, really small. Like imagine a small number, but smaller than that.
So an infinitesimal?
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 9:20:55 AM No.16734053
>>16734033
Zero-divisors.
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Anonymous
7/26/2025, 10:01:33 AM No.16734061
>>16734053
Then what is the division by in that case, if not zero?
Replies: >>16734124
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 10:05:08 AM No.16734062
Soooo, smaller than 0 but not negative?
Replies: >>16734063
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 10:06:15 AM No.16734063
>>16734062
wait im retarded i forgot how fractions work
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 11:41:10 AM No.16734111
[math]\mathcal{DOWN SYNDROME} [/math]
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 12:27:26 PM No.16734124
>>16734061
faggot >>16733525