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Anonymous No.16747639 [Report] >>16747672 >>16747753 >>16747775 >>16747838 >>16747989 >>16748536 >>16748561
What do you think of this hypothesis? Is it worth exploring?
Anonymous No.16747672 [Report]
>>16747639 (OP)
I eat poop
Anonymous No.16747753 [Report]
>>16747639 (OP)
aint reading allat
Anonymous No.16747775 [Report] >>16747787 >>16747789
>>16747639 (OP)
>Betty Friedan
Nice Early life.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betty_Friedan
Anonymous No.16747787 [Report] >>16747816 >>16748561
>>16747775
She was an honest woman though and what she described fits into my theory of universal polygenic androphobia. I think women's mammal nature just can't tolerate men's presence and it's a universal pattern observable in nature as well.

What do you think?
Anonymous No.16747789 [Report] >>16747795
>>16747775
You didn't need to look at Wikipedia to know that Friedan is a kike name.
Anonymous No.16747795 [Report]
>>16747789
I'm not ashamed to quote Betty Friedan's work because almost all woman regardless of their ethnic background agreed with the likes of her.

Jewish or not, she was just speaking her mind and women agreed with her just like they did with the savage first wave feminists.
Anonymous No.16747816 [Report] >>16747822
>>16747787
I wrote something similar but from pure psychologic point of view.
https://pastebin.com/WxF4MVZZ

One of the most interesting points is that there are no insults from men to women such as “you're not a real woman” or “you're a woman-child.” Meanwhile, women constantly construct masculinity or male identity in their advice or insults as something that serves women.

Therefore, women need to create an idealized version of women in men. Meanwhile, they force an idealized version of masculinity on men. Another of women's projections is the idea of patriarchy. That men organize themselves secretly in all-male groups to plan how to control or dominate women. And that is why there is a need to infiltrate men's groups.
For example, trans-exclusionary feminists believed that all trans people were secret agents of patriarchy who wanted to enter women's bathrooms to spy on women. Or sometimes a woman disguises herself as a man to infiltrate male groups.

Also, using sex as a bargaining chip to avoid death or mutilation, so gay men or men who do not have sex with women are seen as potential murderers of women.
It seems that women have a real fear that men will one day rise up against them and control them with physical violence in every aspect of their lives.
Anonymous No.16747822 [Report] >>16747837 >>16747938
>>16747816
I will read this, thanks.

I'm assuming your familiar with radfem lingo from fringe spaces, how often they incorporate men's chromosomes into their insults, it's almost as if they're aware of this at some level.

And then you have their male counterparts scattered across the internet on incel forums and imageboards but misogynist language and insults never once referred to female chromosomes. I find that very interesting.
Anonymous No.16747837 [Report]
>>16747822
can you provide examples of that?
Anonymous No.16747838 [Report] >>16747840
>>16747639 (OP)
>a string of 4chan posts
Ah yes, must be very insightful.

The first major error I caught on was:
>males are immediately killed after mating in species where females are stronger/bigger
The author must have caught onto this themselves since they try justifying the obvious contradiction to this that is avian sexual dimorphism with their gonosome configuration (ZW/ZZ) but the examples they've given as proof (bees, praying mantises, etc.) are fucking *arthropods* where chromosome configuration is even more wildly different.
Stopped reading after that.
Anonymous No.16747840 [Report] >>16747844 >>16747847
>>16747838
What the hell are you talking about, the ZW/ZZ system is mentioned as the opposite, compatible pair bonding system. The variability and the dimorphism is only brought up in the first part in the context of male foreign systems.

Praying mantises and bees are mentioned as XX/XO and haploidy which result in even more hostility which were mentioned further down below.

Fuck you and learn to read, or better yet get the fuck out of my thread.
Anonymous No.16747844 [Report] >>16747853
>>16747840
again, provide one example of "radfem lingo involving male chromosomes" or you are being intellectually dishonest.
Anonymous No.16747847 [Report] >>16747856
>>16747840
Indeed, and it's absurd that you can give species that display haploidy as even circumstantial proof that female physiology views the foreign gonosome as a virus, considering there's no foreign gonosome to speak of.
Going by your logic, if haploidy was inherently physiologically undesirable similar to the presence of a foreign chromosome, then you'd see bodies destroying their own gametocytes
Anonymous No.16747853 [Report] >>16747854 >>16747855
>>16747844
I could get hundreds of these, this took me 2 minutes
Anonymous No.16747854 [Report]
>>16747853
>crystal cafe
that's a troon
Anonymous No.16747855 [Report]
>>16747853
>nygger
That's genuinely hilarious what the fuck
Anonymous No.16747856 [Report] >>16747857
>>16747847
>Going by your logic, if haploidy was inherently physiologically undesirable
As in immediately disposed of after it's genetic material is extracted?
Anonymous No.16747857 [Report] >>16747858
>>16747856
The causality in your hypothesis is all fucked up. You need to work on that.
Anonymous No.16747858 [Report]
>>16747857
I've never implied that it's flawless and it's finished, it's something I want to explore as I have stated in the OP.
Anonymous No.16747938 [Report] >>16747939
>>16747822
First feminism, they talked about women as gestation being the main point of women, then that gestation enslaved women, then gender theory as a social construct that ended up creating transsexuals. On the surface, feminism remains a social construct like gender. But the most radical women's groups on the internet ended up returning to biological principles, such as radical feminism or gender criticism. In this case, testosterone makes men brutal, violent, and rapists. Estrogen is a magical hormone of peace and sociability. The terms hormones, genital organs, or biological concepts are used to construct the identity of women and men in these spaces. Therefore, referring to sex chromosomes as identity would be a logical conclusion.

In general, after menstruation, a woman's life revolves around her vagina. In this sense, women seek a male equivalent such as phallocentrism. That is why these spaces end up using basic and obsolete terminology from biology books to refer to or represent men.

Although for years feminists have distanced themselves from these spaces, underground feminist groups are trying to create more radical and organized groups than public groups for future mass attacks. Or there is something intrinsic in women that creates these types of radical groups. That's why I'm interested in your writings on /pol/.

In general, I try to avoid biology in my explanations and return to child and social psychological development to explain women outside of the basic topics of makeup, pink things, and other cliche to ask why certain patterns are repeated in women's behavior.
Anonymous No.16747939 [Report] >>16747940
>>16747938
For example, it doesn't matter what race, place of origin, age, or educational level. Being on the internet, I see that all women write more or less the same way in how they guide conversations or discussions in a passive-aggressive way, asking and answering. It's as if there were only one woman.

This is another point on the internet outside of physical form: women need a way to differentiate themselves from men and claim their identity as women. That is why they feel the need to emphasize others as men in their writing.

One of the thought experiments used would be to put a man in a woman's place or a woman in a man's place. And other people to perceive them as the opposite sex. Or what is the difference in the treatment of men and women? With trans people, we can see this type of experiment in multiple environments.

One of my ideas is that if there were a discussion between two people on the internet, both of whom were women, but one was presented to the other as a man, this woman would always be the first to insult the first person in a discussion for being a man. When a woman has a problem with someone she perceives as a man, she will always try to find a way to attack him as a man.

Although at this point it is interesting to return to biology as the basis for psychological and social changes.

In /pol/, a German man spoke about how Judaism is an invention of women to control their men. With this, Jewish men are feminized or castrated, exhibiting many of the manipulative and deceitful behaviors of women. Furthermore, feminism itself, which is almost entirely created and led by Jewish women, is a projection and analysis of women's own methods of manipulation and deceit. The patriarchy that feminists talk about is the very order that women impose on men.
Anonymous No.16747940 [Report] >>16747951 >>16747969
>>16747939
Another interesting idea is that feminists always avoid talking about the role of women in controlling women themselves. They always blame men or “society” without ever mentioning women. The idea that they always have to hide women's hidden agenda, or that women are only fighting against the interests of other women but using men as intermediaries.

As a joke, if only two women argue with each other, it is the man who is wrong. Who? Some man will be to blame.

An idea returning to biology is that women have two faces. That a woman's brain hides a double face. One personality that tries to maximize social points or be liked by everyone, and another that pursues its true goals through lies and deception. Or how women hide their true intentions from the world as a tool for survival. In this sense, the idea that women's immune systems may perceive men as foreign is possible. The sense of smell also plays a role in reproduction. It may be that women unconsciously smell men as something foreign and certain men as more attractive. This could also have a basis in the immune system. Biology is stranger than you can imagine and remains a largely unexplored field.

You can analyze this scientist's writings.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Gazzaniga

Another interesting idea is how, in recent decades, feminists are changing the judicial system around the world so that any woman has the power to attack a man with false accusations of rape, using rape as a political weapon. It would be a counteroffensive to the physical power of men. At any time, any woman can accuse you of rape, and you have to prove otherwise while spending time in preventive detention.

And how normal it is for women to fantasize about rape or for feminists to talk about rape. Thinking that men have constant fantasies about rape just like them.

The topic is very broad, with multiple anonymous users finding the same points or ideas but with totally different explanations.
Anonymous No.16747951 [Report] >>16748564
>>16747940
>In this sense, the idea that women's immune systems may perceive men as foreign is possible.
I have to make a small correction here, that's not exactly the theory I'm proposing. Picrel is the very short version of it. If this cytokine pressure evolved into androphobia as a polygenic trait, then at this point it's something responsible for regulating brain chemistry, not specifically interacting with male fetal cells.
That's just how it might have came into existence and how it might get even worse in the future. The immune reaction is a sort of a pressure in this theory, not the result. The result is a not yet revealed adversarial mechanism that I theorize as a polygenic trait.

That's why an experiment would be crucial, if the cytokine flood event is verified then it could be studied further as to how the flood into the amygdala and the insula translates into certain brain states.
Anonymous No.16747969 [Report]
>>16747940
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Gazzaniga
also thanks for this, I will read all of his papers
>The topic is very broad, with multiple anonymous users finding the same points or ideas but with totally different explanations.
Yep, but I feel like many of them have been just circling around it, instead of trying to reduce it to what it actually might be on the most fundamental level.
Anonymous No.16747989 [Report]
>>16747639 (OP)
mucho texto kekistranny bro
Anonymous No.16748536 [Report] >>16748560
>>16747639 (OP)
How many women believe in the reddit garbage you are citing. I guarantee less than 4%. Go outside bro the women on reddit are barely female.
Anonymous No.16748560 [Report]
>>16748536
>the reddit garbage you are citing
Clarify and help me rectify the mistakes I've made.
>Go outside bro
I won't.
Anonymous No.16748561 [Report] >>16748564
>>16747639 (OP)
>>16747787
Like quite a bit else I've seen on this board and others... It sounds schizo as fuck, but fuck me if it doesn't make a bit a sense.
Anonymous No.16748564 [Report] >>16748565
>>16748561
I know it's all over the place and I need to clean it up because I didn't exactly present this in a calm and collected manner, but I feel like it has some merit. I have made a shorter summary of the main point in this post:
>>16747951

But I will reformat and rewrite the entire thing.
Anonymous No.16748565 [Report] >>16748566
>>16748564
I mean your idea overall sounds schizo. No matter how right you are you're gonna be facing an uphill battle getting people to believe it. Just being brutally honest.
Anonymous No.16748566 [Report] >>16748569
>>16748565
>getting people to believe it
I don't care whether people believe it or not, I just want to know if it's the truth and I want the opinions of people who have more insight than I do.
Anonymous No.16748569 [Report] >>16748583
>>16748566
Good, don't lose ambition.
Anonymous No.16748583 [Report]
>>16748569
I won't. I understand perfectly well why people wouldn't like this idea, I mean if the entire train of thought is verified then it would prove that mammal female bodies produced males as a unit of territorial violence, labor or in the cases where dimorphism favors the female(hyenas) a dispenser of genetic material whose presence isn't tolerated beyond that exchange.

If you look other behaviors of birds(the reversed ZW/ZZ system where the female carries the foreign chromosome), you won't only notice the capacity for actual pair bonding and parental investment from both sexes but the way they compete for females is mostly ritualized, it's not a process of nearly guaranteed male-on-male violence like it is with most mammals. There are exceptions as always, but this is about the pattern.