Thread 16808880

I have no desire to do anything. I sit around all day, don’t feel motivated to form relationships, and feel like I’m wasting my life. I’m thinking about giving it a shot. I'm getting quoted $500 a session for 2 sessions a week for 3-5 weeks and want to see if it's really worth it.

>>16808880 (OP)
first lesson of the ketamine treatment, when ravers take ketamine, they never want to be around a first timer, why, you might ask, because he'll literally shit himself, pretty epic isn't it?

>>16808880 (OP)
I trust more "psilocybin microdosing", and I don't trust it at all

>>16808897
well this would be in a controlled environment not a rave but good to know lol

>>16808901
I'm not an expert but I've taken a few drugs, tell me, why did you chose ketamine as your helper?

>>16808906
Because I have no internal drive or desires and it sounds like textbook anehedonia. I'm not sad or depressed just empty so hopefully ketamine can reactivate my brain to be more open.

>>16808909
sounds mildly fucked up, have you ever been like this?

>>16808912
For years

>>16808914
have you gon to the doc? did you change into that state or were you always like that?

>>16808916
he got it from the coof vaxx

>>16808880 (OP)
>$10000 to trip with some faggot doctor watching you
Just eat some mushrooms

>>16808928
not OP, but hate to agree

>>16808928
>>16808930
That's why I asked lol wasn't sure if Ketamine was really that special

>>16808928
>I'm putting together a team

>>16808934
shrooms are the typical go-to for "I was in a gray/dark hole and this gave me some insight", I would recommend going on a trip to some legit boomer website that lists literally all human knowledge on shrooms and so on, I remember being a lil teen and reading that shit, oh boy those boomers sure hoarded info, and they offered all to you nicely organized and for free

>>16808928
The medical industry is so wildly idolatrized in America that people will literally call an ambulance to be taken to the hospital for emergency treatment for a runny nose or 99º temperature just to have a midwit intern who's been awake for over 48 hours hear their confession and tell them to go home, rest, and drink water. This, more than anything else, even more than lawyers, insurance agents, and pharma salesmen, is why we will never be able to provide universal health care for Americans.

>>16808942
>recommend going on a trip to some legit boomer website that lists literally all human knowledge on shrooms and so on, I remember being a lil teen and reading that shit, oh boy those boomers sure hoarded info
Like https://erowid.org/?

>>16808949
right on the money it seems

>>16808949
but be warned though, don't become one of those "duuuuuuuuudeeee shrooooms open your mind" and all that bullshit, don't obsess and get "hooked" on them, we didn't came to this earth to trip our brain out, but to experience life itself

>>16808957
I've done shrooms already lol Just years ago, it defintely helps short-term. Never done ketamine which is why I was curious.

>>16808959
which specific effect is calling you about ketamine? as far as I know it's a sedative, "lean" is also a sedative, well an opioid to be more fair, and honestly I didn't enjoy that shit at all, is as if I was just sedated to the point of being a corpse, not the kind of experience I want 2bh

>>16808947
I agree partially but my thoughts with the clinic is sure its $500 but it should be higher quality than any garbage I realistically could find on the street plus I don't even know any drug dealers.

>>16808962
Because "It's thought to work by boosting neuroplasticity in the brain, helping "rewire" patterns stuck in depression.". I have extremely negative thought patterns (the world is poison, life is meaningless ect) to the point I can't really think differently. I fear its the result of heavy isolation

>>16808947
>This, more than anything else, even more than lawyers, insurance agents, and pharma salesmen, is why we will never be able to provide universal health care for Americans.
nah, that's absolute bullshit, you have pharma and healthcare industry that is milking you all dry, and that is a good business, and that is the actual reason why you will forever be taken to the cleaners, cause it is profitable for them, don't fool yourself with the puppet and see who is moving the strings

>>16808963
nta, follow your guts and do some research, it'll help you determine if ketamine is actually better for your use case, I sure as fuck don't know, but my gut and my experinces with psychedelics tell me that shrooms and the like is what you're after, but again I'm no specialist so...
perhaps you could have this same conversation with an actual doctor you deem trust-worthy enough

>>16808970
You can pass laws to add friction to the grift. Ban nonemergency health insurance, which isn't really "insurance" at all. Raise the bar for proving malpractice and allow doctors and hospitals to countersue lawyers and firms that file frivolous lawsuits, assigning it as personal, nondischargeable debt, like a student loan. Etc. You can't pass laws to stop people from being religious zealots who think a doctor's office is like a magic church you need to visit and take pharma communion from all the time.

>>16808985
>You can pass laws to add friction to the grift.
lelz you can transfer money to the bank accounts of the politicians to perpetuate the girft to the end of times

>>16808992
Laws are unlikely, deprogramming more than a handful of fanatics is impossible.

>>16809007
no idea what you're talking about

>>16809009
Good for you.

>>16808880 (OP)
I have treatment resistant depression and it works for me. It gives you the opportunity to rewire your brain, which takes effort and introspection. If you approach it as a magic bullet you will have wasted a lot of money for a very brief and disappointing drug trip. At $500 a pop I would just do shrooms desu but luckily the American taxpayer picks up the tab so I do it weekly.

Basically all the
>lol just don't be depressed
retards are full of shit but ketamine allows their advice to actually work temporarily. Also you can learn shit and get smarter so def take advantage of that if you ever do it.

>>16808880 (OP)
well who wouldnt benefit from doing drugs in a safe and controlled environment a few times

>>16808928
This.
Clinics and Globohomo Pharma just want to trick you and suck your blood dry for some fancy shit treatments.
Save a ton of money and go buy some psilocybin. Go to some kind of calm environment (countryside outside the city, or just a cool ambient silent room), eat a handful and drink water, and enjoy the trip of your life.

>>16808897
Nobody shits himself from keta.

>>16809540
I agree with this.

>Sign up for Ketamine treatment
>Hour long "intake meeting" (zoom call to determine if I qualify) is $250
Who the fuck pays these prices?

>>16809553
>Nobody shits himself from keta.
heard otherwise, plus it makes sense

>>16808880 (OP)
This is what happens when people don't do drugs and have fun at the appropriate times in their lives.
Then you get faggots like OP who need to get high in a cold medical facility whilst some Indian doctor jacks off to him tripping balls in the other room.

>>16809701
Its not that simple. Plenty of people who party in their 20s end up broke and depressed later on in life

>>16809705
I'm not telling you to go off and become a junkie piece of shit, but if people weren't so afraid to drop some LSD once a year, or smoke some weed on a very special, relaxing moment, they wouldn't be asking about eating ketamine in front of a gay doctor.

>>16809688
You "heard" otherwise, meanwhile we have actually done that shit
And it doesn't really make any sense
it is an anesthetic yes, and under full anesthesia you can shit yourself, but you don't take a high enough does to pass out, just disassociate

I'm sure it has happened to some people, just like people have shat themselves with alcohol abuse too.

>>16809709
Yeah maybe LSD could help but I've been taking Sativa gummies and its still not helping. Although I think accidnetly taking Indica fucked me up as well

>>16808959
if shrooms helped you, then you need an ssri or something serotonergic, try SSRIs

>>16809747
>If taking a deep breath helped you, then you need to subscribe to my daily knife club and stab one into your throat every day until you bleed to death
Kys pharma shill

>>16809761
>meds are le bad cause doctors are le ebil
schizo babble

>>16809847
>nigger can't read
many such cases

>>16809747
You've got this backwards

>>16808947
i think americans behave like this because American insurance will cover the emergency treatment but won't cover otc medication

>>16810596
honestly pharma jews are based as fuck, amerigolems deserve what they're getting

donwnloading fantasyRSPS

>>16808880 (OP)
>>16808914
>>16808909
This sounds like depression. Go see a doctor.

>>16808880 (OP)
I've taken a lot of ketamine, both recreationally and clinically, and while it feels great at the time it's never had any lasting effect for me other than making me want to take more ketamine. It works for some people but it's very individual, and if you think you might get something out of it you may as well try it. If you try a lot of different things you'll hopefully find something that works eventually.

When you do ketamine, this is who you're stealing from

>>16813553
Horses are greedy selfish bastards hogging all the drugs for themselves

>>16808880 (OP)
Pavlov developed a similar treatment using ether. Apparently any drug works. I suggest sniffing glue.

>>16808909
you are either schizoid or schizotypal, i have the same thing, it feels like you have adhd with depression except you've had them all your life but only realized it once you left your comfort zone, are you employed, can you keep a job?

>>16808880 (OP)
Not OP but I was also looking into ketamine therapy. It doesn’t appear to be covered by any insurance and I’m way too broke for it, but my insurance does cover esketamine nasal spray. Anyone know how different that is and if it’s as effective as regular ketamine?

>>16815802
>can you keep a job?
Somehow lmao I'm in lab sales and have sent 7 emails, made 0 calls and visited 0 clients in person his week. I mostly rely on repeat customers placing huge orders and somehow haven't been found out. Occasionally I work up the motivation to brute force some calls and visits which keeps me safe but my motivation has been absolutely shit lately

>>16816427
>mostly rely on repeat customers placing huge orders and somehow haven't been found out
yes, relying on shortcuts like this only goes so far until the bosses find out and demand you act like a normie, how did you even pass the interview?

>>16816632
Stay mad lab jockey. I established the relationships in the first place because I used to work a lot harder. Finding shortcuts to maximize sales and minimize stress is kind of the name of the game in sales. Hard work will just burn you out.