Thread 16844650

What went wrong with American college students?

>>16844650 (OP)
It became the next thing to do. Rather than those who should go to college going, now everybody is expected to so you have people who were below average in high school in college.
The upper end is still fine, but the mass influx has tanked averages.

>>16844650 (OP)
its mostly racial, negros and latrinos all get free college scholarships in cali if they graduate and its illegal for them to fail out of hs, so you end up with every campus having a majority brown and population most of whom are illiterate.

>>16844650 (OP)
I'm of average intelligence and have forgotten much of the maths I did take in university. I would say I am the exact picture of average intelligence, I struggled even with intermediate calculus at my sharpest. If someone cannot answer this sheet without errors they have absolutely no business entering higher education for any price. What the fuck man

>>16844650 (OP)
Why can't Americans just state this question like white people?
>solve 7+2=x+6
But no, it needs to be some asinine visual crap with le boxes n shiet.

>>16844652
"Math is hard." -- Barbie

>>16844650 (OP)
The answer is 3.... right??

>>16844720
Because it's remedial, it's made extremely basic so that the participant only engages with simple numbers. Even someone totally unfamiliar with algebraic notation would be able to understand the intent of the question.

>>16844742
That's right! Very good anon, that's another gold star!!!

>>16844650 (OP)
the problem appears to occur before college

>>16844742
God, I hope so. That's what I got.
I used a pile of nine matches to verify empirically too.

>>16844756
The artistry of those cross-outs is emotional-Hilter-indicating levels of autism.

>>16844750
It occurs before they exit the womb

>>16844652
>30
>2%
How are there adults who can't solve such an easy math question? Aren't multiplication and division taught in elementary school? [math]-18 - \frac{2}{3} = -\frac{56}{3}[/math]

They're dumb. That's why you have to be in the Ivies. So that you are in a good company of peers of your level.

>>16844650 (OP)
>UCSD
>remedial math class
How is this shocking to literally anyone

>>16844650 (OP)
This sets it up for the students in question to have been in school during No Kid Left Behind.
Thanks Bush.
>>16844650 (OP)
>UC San Diego gave the test to 138 students who needed the remedial lesson
UC San Diego also has 39,000 students.
The alarming thing is that early public schooling is passing children without actually instilling the knowledge into them. THis is because no kids left behind meant failing a student could actually lose your school money, and this is the consequences

>>16844650 (OP)
Racial quotas

>>16844743
>basic shit normal people learn in primary school
>totally unfamiliar with algebraic notation
Do Americans really?

>>16844720
Erm actually that's the d'Alembert operator

>>16844720
>But no, it needs to be some asinine visual crap with le boxes n shiet.
It's actually a document from the Epstein files and the box is redacting the age of a victim.

>>16844711
>If someone cannot answer this sheet without errors they have absolutely no business entering higher education for any price. What the fuck man
Blame states that fucked up their high school curriculum scaling and basically send in teachers with jackshit assistance or help. Even the good schools suck ass at math because math education is one of the harder fields to be a teacher in and in the most optimal settings you have like 17-21 variables (students) to deal with.

Americans are dumb stupid and fat

>>16844650 (OP)
lol covid absolutely raped that generation, unhirable cohort

>>16844944
That kind of shit is completely pointless unless your job involves that type of math. I suspected this as a student (that anything past basic addition/subtraction/multiplication had no real world use outside of math-based fields) and after a couple decades as an adult, I can confirm it to be true.

I did very well in school but when it came to any sort of useless learning, I memorized it long enough to pass the test and then I promptly forgot it. At no point in my adult life have I ever needed any of that knowledge. I make a little under $200k a year.

>>16844650 (OP)
7+2-6

>>16844829
were allowed to use matches?

>>16845203
God, I hope so. That's the only way I learned. Our grade 1 maths instructor gave us all a box of 100 matches and said, "there's yer goddamn successor function lads". I could do nine. I could do up to about 50, really.

>>16844650 (OP)
not to say it's the only reason but probably the biggest: they use ChatGPT to do their homework for them

>>16844976
>No Kid Left Behind.
No Kid Moves Forward.
Chained them all to desks to be taught to standardized tests. Massive failure.

>>16845217
Nah, this level of math is so low, I doubt that explains this unless they are using chatgpt in kindergarten. To me this seems like a complete failure of elementary schools for the bottom X percentile of students (don't know what X would be though, could be 10 could be 50)

>>16844650 (OP)
The real question is why are colleges allowing these kids in to the schools to begin with

>>16845221
money

Mathematics is nourishing for the soul.
It should be treated the same as philosophy in this regard.

>>16844978
Excepting your obsession with America, yes, humans normally do not learn algebraic notation at the same time they learn basic arithmetic.

>>16844944
I guarantee the deciding factor was the exponent. Most of the people trying it probably have no idea what it means, so they fail the question outright.

>>16844650 (OP)
>remedial
25% arent meant to be in college but are pushed there by propaganda. They should be trades.

>>16845222
How are these retards who will never pay back their loan a sound investment?
If the college gains a reputation for these retards then the value of the degree from that college will also fall affecting the hiring of former graduates.

>>16844746
Lmfaooo

>>16845742
The effect is uniform across the system due to government subsidization of loans for higher learning. Thus the lost of prestige in one school is generally reflected across the board. So long as businesses continue to highly-value degrees, educational institutions that offer them with have inherent value. As usual, the involvement of a party that necessarily introduces allocative inefficiency (the government) should be heavily scrutinized, as even the most well-intentioned actions can have grave consequences.

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>>16844844
Why did the american public reject the new math from the Sputnik crisis? Surely there was still a white majority back then in the 60s. Was this new math really harder than current european standard?

>>16844944
yeah all of these are incredibly easy questions, as long as i have paper.
I hate doing math in my head.

>>16845617
>They should be trades.
Trades is super hot an muss depending on where you live. Many still use math in them. Like you could afford to be a total dumbass back in the day and get by when schools juat dumped kids into it or people had no ither option. Now you actually have to think due to changes in the job and upskilling is even more vital to go up because the alternative is fucking up your body by your late 30s.