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Meanwhile you think circular reasoning is the sign of a fallacy but when accounting for infinity, the universe poses a problem for the context of you’re implying entropy means it’s not permanent.

There’s nothing wrong with circular reasoning in the sense that it’s logical and doesn’t contradict itself. Perfect closed systems aren’t proven to not exist and thusly it’s ironic how atheists try to deflect that with shit like entropy, but when believers bring up how insinuating it’s not a permanent universe and that it constantly keeps coming back or something as if it’s self sustaining there’s zero context for the entropy to be present for it being the case at that point. So the model falls apart and now you’re stuck with the dilemma that the universe isn’t infinite but the basis for this is entropy and it’s contradicting why the context would allow for temporal phenomena but from a never ending cyclical cause. That somehow, isn’t caused by a prime mover.

Circular reasoning is only bad when believers do it. But the moment atheists imply that a regenerating universe with entropy is uncaused and imply there is a physical proof of concept for infinity they contradict themselves. Now there’s proof of a physical eternal set of properties but they are apparently breaking down due to relativity meaning these constants are even constant and that the universe which keeps waxing and waning isn’t changing, but it is because of entropy.

That’s just like, black science man levels of mental gymnastics.