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6/15/2025, 8:17:29 AM
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Let us pretend for it to be so.
>It is important to clarify that while most Gnostic groups considered the Demiurge to be an inferior being to the perfect unity of the pleroma/kenoma, the Saturnine deity (Ialdabaoth) is not an enemy of humanity - indeed, the deity is considered to be the parent of the material cosmos. Most Gnostics, however, in their rejection of the material cosmos, rejected its maker as well, and so He is vilified as being somehow 'stupid' or 'foolish', which is a curious point of view. Indeed, the Saturnine deity is understood to be an emanation of Chaos, but Chaos is the origin of Cosmos in Gnostic thought - it is not at all antagonistic towards it. Cosmic life itself is subject to change (Chaos), it is not the perfect spiritual stasis of the pleroma. Curiously, the Valentinian Gnostics presented a similar but different paradigm, in which the Demiurge rules all the celestial realms except for earth, which is held by a renegade Archon (the Devil). Thus the seven planetary realms are at odds with the earth, and so Saturn is the distant king who seeks to "save" the initiate from the cycle of rebirth. It is rare for Saturn to take on a salvific character, but in this tradition (at least) that is the case.
Let us pretend for it to be so.
>It is important to clarify that while most Gnostic groups considered the Demiurge to be an inferior being to the perfect unity of the pleroma/kenoma, the Saturnine deity (Ialdabaoth) is not an enemy of humanity - indeed, the deity is considered to be the parent of the material cosmos. Most Gnostics, however, in their rejection of the material cosmos, rejected its maker as well, and so He is vilified as being somehow 'stupid' or 'foolish', which is a curious point of view. Indeed, the Saturnine deity is understood to be an emanation of Chaos, but Chaos is the origin of Cosmos in Gnostic thought - it is not at all antagonistic towards it. Cosmic life itself is subject to change (Chaos), it is not the perfect spiritual stasis of the pleroma. Curiously, the Valentinian Gnostics presented a similar but different paradigm, in which the Demiurge rules all the celestial realms except for earth, which is held by a renegade Archon (the Devil). Thus the seven planetary realms are at odds with the earth, and so Saturn is the distant king who seeks to "save" the initiate from the cycle of rebirth. It is rare for Saturn to take on a salvific character, but in this tradition (at least) that is the case.
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