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Your sentiment is close to correct but reversed. Scientists were and are still a portion of natural philosophers, and the Sciences are a subcategory of discipline within that umbrella. What I take issue with is blanket use of the term "Science" to include things that don't employ the Scientific Method. Things like Geometry and Mathematics predate Empiricism as a philosophy. This muddies the waters as to what a character denying that something is magic actually means.

In the original post to which I respond, the poster makes the tired claim that Magic is simply science that is not understood yet. This is part of an ongoing and retarded meme about the Elves actually having le super science. This is not what the text being quoted is actually saying. What it is rather saying is that to the Elves, "Magic" is a terminology they associate with the Enemy (Sauron) and this is something that unintelligent people read, and presuppose that this means that Galadriel's mirror is actually an Ipad or something.

What it actually means, however, is that the Elves view their art as a philosophic discipline, not as occultism. This is different from it being hecking science, though. It's clearly not heckin' science, and we know this because by Tolkien's express words, Elvish things are superior not because of the secret of their construction but because the Elves are in some small sense divine.