also to say, these different forms of dampers which have been popping up recently seem quite cool. Chain damper from rimpact, pedal kickback devices from e13 and ochain, steering dampers from pademelon/canyons springshit and TMD's from countersycle and rimpact. Sadly a lot of it probably is only realistically useful for DH, but interesting nevertheless. I would like to try them out at some point