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This is an edited transcript of an episode of “The Ezra Klein Show.” ID: TNYYI3tUUnited States /pol/510761475#510768136
7/19/2025, 3:00:43 AM
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>There’s another figure in here who seems significant to me: Elon Musk. Tell me a bit about Musk’s role in all this.

Musk has really helped bring this Epstein situation to a boil just in the past couple months.

So Elon Musk obviously was a very close Trump lieutenant and funder, and very involved with DOGE. But then after he and Trump had a falling out a few weeks ago, he comes out kind of biting Trump, and says: They’re spending too much money. He’s not being enough of a deficit hawk. Though ultimately, that’s not really something MAGA people care too much about.

But then amid this daylong fight, Musk comes out and says: Well, you know what? You’re not going to get the Epstein files because Trump is in the Epstein files, and that’s why they’re not coming out.

>Yes. This is June 5. He tweets: “Time to drop the really big bomb: @realDonaldTrump is in the Epstein files. That is the real reason they have not been made public.”

And that is a big bomb. I think that was treated — rightly — by people in the MAGA movement and these right-wing influencers and everyone else as suddenly the moment that the gloves were off. And this is a rift that cannot be healed.

>Musk has since deleted that tweet, although on July 7 he wrote: “What’s the time? Oh, look, it’s no-one-has-been-arrested-o’clock again.”