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>>17823429
They make a superficially correct statement and think it's a win. You can't base some spooky ultimate knowledge based on our experiences, but who said our goals was to create spooky mystical rules? They're effectively shocked that legal scholarship, historical scholarship, scientific investigation, etc doesn't operate like a religion, and then say it's inferior to religion.

It's just a rhetorical trap, they don't even believe in anything.

>>17823446
Some more than other. I consider the big liberal-enlightenment vs. leftism break to be grounded in frameworks and tone, with leftism being much more cynical, paranoid, and intellectually closed off. Marxism and socialists for instance, don't believe that you should or need to study mainstream political or economic theory, since it's just a bunch of lies, and only Marxist thinkers hold the real answers. That kind of hubris extends to the post-strucutralists, who apply that approach to everything. You can think of them as extending the conspiracy past politics and economics to all social structures.

And of course THEY and THEY alone have all the answers and have seen through the lies, so we should give them tons of attention and money so they can run society instead. it's such an obvious power grab.

Enlightenment thought is more optimistic, and positive, but we are seeing actually that they might have been a bit too naive. Obviously there needs to be a middle ground.

>>17823456
Right away noticing major gaps in his thinking, same with Nietzsche.