>>149535067
>Because theres strong evidence to the contrary.
Actually not, rapid onset genfer dysphoria is a thing. Your problem s that you reject the premise that one can be gaslighted into it to begin with, so everytime this happens you just say that they "discovered themseves" because you don't allow any other alternative. Also that IS observed in all other fetish groups, why would this be different?

>You cant turn someone gay by surrounding them with gay porn any more than you can turn someone straight by the same mechanism
Modern science considers that social enviroments take part in shaping sexuality, the idea that you are born something and thats just it is really only a simplificated narrative (see pic). This is made evident just by looking at history, like how some societies have institutionalized homossexual behavior (greek pederasts for example or some guinean tribes that have teenage boys performing fellatio as part of rituals).

Also, many people that did detransition say that this gaslighting is real.

>The idea that being trans isnt innate is just conjecture
The entire argument makes no sense. Someone who is "gender fluid" can just flip flop his gender at will, thus making it not innate.