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6/12/2025, 11:49:53 PM
>>24461940
It's not. They were already selecting for stories that match profitability before this, and that happened to be white men and women. More than likely the policy change was in response to the #PublishingPaidMe scandal because blacks were getting paid less upfront by publishers (again, according to you, this would be "responding to the market"): https://www.vox.com/culture/2020/6/17/21285316/publishing-paid-me-diversity-black-authors-systemic-bias
So there is a legal motive possibly (afraid of being sued or boycott for racism, so they have to be racist against whites) and we see the profit motive is not realistic because black authors are still underperforming even with a lot of astroturfing. In 2024 for example, Percival Everett, who has been extremely astroturfed by media for years, only barely beat a somewhat fresh and almost unknown white author by less than 1%.
>Chris Whitaker from 2024 https://www.amazon.com/All-Colors-Dark-Chris-Whitaker-ebook/dp/B0CP93N5S2/
>Percival Everett from 2024 https://www.amazon.com/James-Novel-Percival-Everett-ebook/dp/B0C8MGS6GR/
Obviously these one off comparisons don't say much, but we can also see something interesting with how even Amazon structures their best selling lists. The screenshot lists a black author second despite having fewer sales than many other authors, including multiple white males, who aren't even included in the best sellers list at all (only marked such when doing a normal search): https://www.amazon.com/Audible-Studios-on-Brilliance-Friends/dp/B0DJRQR52T/
Jakob Kerr is a white male listed long after far worse performing black, asian, and white female authors in the current 2025 list: https://www.amazon.com/Dead-Money-Novel-Jakob-Kerr-ebook/dp/B0D2W1B4KN/
In other words, white males are performing well despite Amazon exherting an extremely large amount of force to astroturf black and female authors, and when we compare the overall sales, white males are still selling better on average. (I'm going to hopefully compile actual data on this soon) Amazon has also had a specific program to amplify black voices for years, I know this because my mother is a white author that complained about it despite being far leftist: https://www.aboutamazon.com/news/entertainment/amazon-shares-the-books-movies-shows-and-songs-that-celebrate-black-creators Note that this initiative ALSO started less than one year before Angry Robot publishing changed its policy! Interesting!
So we know that therebis explicitly discriminatory policy towards white male authors in the same ways as stated before even on Amazon. White males are ALSO being discriminated against and must compete with black authors being astroturfed for an apparently not-for-profit motive (it may be to avoid legal ramifications from perceived discrimination against minorities).
I have work today but I'll get around to actual data, hopefully better stats than semi-equivalent cases, and interesting editorial moves.
It's not. They were already selecting for stories that match profitability before this, and that happened to be white men and women. More than likely the policy change was in response to the #PublishingPaidMe scandal because blacks were getting paid less upfront by publishers (again, according to you, this would be "responding to the market"): https://www.vox.com/culture/2020/6/17/21285316/publishing-paid-me-diversity-black-authors-systemic-bias
So there is a legal motive possibly (afraid of being sued or boycott for racism, so they have to be racist against whites) and we see the profit motive is not realistic because black authors are still underperforming even with a lot of astroturfing. In 2024 for example, Percival Everett, who has been extremely astroturfed by media for years, only barely beat a somewhat fresh and almost unknown white author by less than 1%.
>Chris Whitaker from 2024 https://www.amazon.com/All-Colors-Dark-Chris-Whitaker-ebook/dp/B0CP93N5S2/
>Percival Everett from 2024 https://www.amazon.com/James-Novel-Percival-Everett-ebook/dp/B0C8MGS6GR/
Obviously these one off comparisons don't say much, but we can also see something interesting with how even Amazon structures their best selling lists. The screenshot lists a black author second despite having fewer sales than many other authors, including multiple white males, who aren't even included in the best sellers list at all (only marked such when doing a normal search): https://www.amazon.com/Audible-Studios-on-Brilliance-Friends/dp/B0DJRQR52T/
Jakob Kerr is a white male listed long after far worse performing black, asian, and white female authors in the current 2025 list: https://www.amazon.com/Dead-Money-Novel-Jakob-Kerr-ebook/dp/B0D2W1B4KN/
In other words, white males are performing well despite Amazon exherting an extremely large amount of force to astroturf black and female authors, and when we compare the overall sales, white males are still selling better on average. (I'm going to hopefully compile actual data on this soon) Amazon has also had a specific program to amplify black voices for years, I know this because my mother is a white author that complained about it despite being far leftist: https://www.aboutamazon.com/news/entertainment/amazon-shares-the-books-movies-shows-and-songs-that-celebrate-black-creators Note that this initiative ALSO started less than one year before Angry Robot publishing changed its policy! Interesting!
So we know that therebis explicitly discriminatory policy towards white male authors in the same ways as stated before even on Amazon. White males are ALSO being discriminated against and must compete with black authors being astroturfed for an apparently not-for-profit motive (it may be to avoid legal ramifications from perceived discrimination against minorities).
I have work today but I'll get around to actual data, hopefully better stats than semi-equivalent cases, and interesting editorial moves.
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