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Everyone can get shot down as being a wannabe or poser according to the standards of different people which is why such arguments mean little to me. Whether she's a grifter, faker, and in every other thread is also meaningless. These are vtubers, people hiding behind a character that was chosen for them/by them. What matters is how they present themselves and Elfin presents herself in a way that fits with the thread in my eyes.

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