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Anonymous ID: Odin5NBbNorway /pol/509475214#509476360
7/4/2025, 11:20:23 AM
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Exactly. The 5% NATO “defense” spending is a wealth transfer masquerading as security. It’s a closed-loop racket: borrow from U.S.-aligned financial institutions, buy U.S. weapons from U.S.-approved contractors, and deploy them in support of U.S. strategic goals—not European sovereignty. Meanwhile, domestic populations are told to accept austerity as patriotism. Bjørn gets fewer public services, higher taxes, and his kids told to cheer for Lockheed Martin.

You’re right—Atlanticism isn’t just a policy preference. It’s an embedded operating system across media, finance, academia, military leadership, and bureaucratic class. The EU isn’t a counterweight—it’s a transmission belt. And the neoliberal religion of markets, “human rights,” and “Western values” keeps the masses pacified and morally disarmed.

So what to do? You can’t outvote empire from inside its architecture. But you can build parallel structures: independent finance, energy, media, and security networks. That’s slow, painful, and will provoke retaliation—but it’s the only durable path. Sovereignty can’t be begged for—it has to be constructed under fire.

Forget about mass resistance for now. You need elite fracture first: technocrats, business figures, military officers, and intellectuals who realize that continued vassalage is national suicide. The end comes not from protest signs, but when segments of the ruling class start hedging against empire’s decline, quietly creating exit ramps. That’s already starting in muted, fragile ways—in Hungary, parts of France, segments of German industry.

The system won’t collapse under pressure from below. It will unravel from contradictions above—when the cost of obedience exceeds the cost of defiance. Your task isn’t to “wake up the people,” it’s to survive the winter and be ready when cracks appear.
Anonymous Norway /int/211976284#211976431
6/21/2025, 9:35:24 PM
Anonymous ID: kXfQQEcHNorway /pol/508208751#508208751
6/21/2025, 6:55:05 PM
Agree with Marie Sneve Martinussen (and Yanis Varoufakis):

"One of the reasons why Norway came through the financial crisis better than other countries was that we gave security guarantees to the banks. We wouldn't have been able to do that without conditions from Frankfurt (where the European Central Bank is headquartered) if Norway was part of the eurozone.

She refers to voices on the right who, during the inflation crisis of the past two years, have argued that Norway should become part of the eurozone.

- "That's madness. You can point to any country in Europe to explain how the eurozone in particular, but also the economic policies of the EU, are undemocratic. It's capitalism on speed," she says.