Not as sodden as you'd expect--these guys are pros and they adapt to the times by making the music tough. I actually enjoy a few of these songs until coming into contact with the dumb woman-haters doing the singing. I mean, they complain that punks are cynical and antilife as they complain the world is all madness and lies and then proceed to rhyme "science" with "appliance" and don't intend a joke. C-