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6/19/2025, 3:22:55 AM
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>First of all, they are broken off, they are not in the tree. It is the clear, unavoidable meaning of this text that the Jews are not right now in the present God's people
*Some* of the branches were cut off (verse 17), it never says the Jews are no longer the Jew god's chosen people. They're still his chosen ones because "if the root is holy, so are the branches" (verse 16) and said Jew god's "gifts and his call are irrevocable" (verse 29).
Paul's "ingrafted branches" analogy only makes it clear that there's a fundamental difference between the Jews and the goyim in the eyes of the Jew god; the former will always be the natural branches while the latter are merely wild olive shoots. It's (((their))) olive tree after all (verse 24), the goyim were only brought in to make them jealous (verse 11).
>First of all, they are broken off, they are not in the tree. It is the clear, unavoidable meaning of this text that the Jews are not right now in the present God's people
*Some* of the branches were cut off (verse 17), it never says the Jews are no longer the Jew god's chosen people. They're still his chosen ones because "if the root is holy, so are the branches" (verse 16) and said Jew god's "gifts and his call are irrevocable" (verse 29).
Paul's "ingrafted branches" analogy only makes it clear that there's a fundamental difference between the Jews and the goyim in the eyes of the Jew god; the former will always be the natural branches while the latter are merely wild olive shoots. It's (((their))) olive tree after all (verse 24), the goyim were only brought in to make them jealous (verse 11).
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