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7/6/2025, 5:33:22 AM
>>149283891
It doesn't matter how strong a verse is if it only has shit matchups or nobody tries to push for the good ones. One of the only matchups to get the team's attention is just Trunks vs Silver without the rivalry or legacy, I hope you like Lucina vs Grovyle because that's the most you're gonna get for a while.
It doesn't matter how strong a verse is if it only has shit matchups or nobody tries to push for the good ones. One of the only matchups to get the team's attention is just Trunks vs Silver without the rivalry or legacy, I hope you like Lucina vs Grovyle because that's the most you're gonna get for a while.
6/18/2025, 11:53:00 AM
>>149053850
>>149053894
Wile actually does have one wincon. Just one. He can use the anti-looney gun to negate Tom’s toon regen, and then finish him off with existence erasure, since he has a few items that can be used for that.
The problem is Tom’s immortality. His toonforce makes him indestructible in the first place but if you somehow manage to bypass that, you now have to kill him again 9 more times thanks to his multiple lives. Even if you managed to do all of that, it wouldn’t be permanent since he can just fight through literal Hell in order to claim all 9 of his lives again and now you’re back where you started. Despite being around for decades, Wile has virtually nothing in his arsenal that can target or interrupt Tom’s resurrection process in such a way that it prevents him from coming back. The anti-looney gun targets specifically the DNA of the cartoon and Tom’s lives aren’t really biological.
There’s a case to be made that Wile’s plot manipulation could be used to literally overwrite Tom’s immortality, but Tom has vastly superior 4th wall breaking such as being able to break out of the cartoon show, into the real world, and warp our reality into a cartoon. That’s a level of 4th wall breaking that not even Popeye or Bugs Bunny possesses. Tom could just jump out of the tv screen to escape the anti-looney gun or the plot manipulation since he’s literally outside of the medium. Wile, on the other hand, may control the medium directly, but he’s still inhabiting it at the same time and he’s never shown being present in the real world by just forcing his way out of the tv show. And since Wile always has terrible luck that constantly backfires on him, and that Tom has plenty of ways to manipulate probability and causality in his favor and at the expense of others, then the chances of the single and already slim wincon of Wile just makes his odds next to impossible.
>>149053894
Wile actually does have one wincon. Just one. He can use the anti-looney gun to negate Tom’s toon regen, and then finish him off with existence erasure, since he has a few items that can be used for that.
The problem is Tom’s immortality. His toonforce makes him indestructible in the first place but if you somehow manage to bypass that, you now have to kill him again 9 more times thanks to his multiple lives. Even if you managed to do all of that, it wouldn’t be permanent since he can just fight through literal Hell in order to claim all 9 of his lives again and now you’re back where you started. Despite being around for decades, Wile has virtually nothing in his arsenal that can target or interrupt Tom’s resurrection process in such a way that it prevents him from coming back. The anti-looney gun targets specifically the DNA of the cartoon and Tom’s lives aren’t really biological.
There’s a case to be made that Wile’s plot manipulation could be used to literally overwrite Tom’s immortality, but Tom has vastly superior 4th wall breaking such as being able to break out of the cartoon show, into the real world, and warp our reality into a cartoon. That’s a level of 4th wall breaking that not even Popeye or Bugs Bunny possesses. Tom could just jump out of the tv screen to escape the anti-looney gun or the plot manipulation since he’s literally outside of the medium. Wile, on the other hand, may control the medium directly, but he’s still inhabiting it at the same time and he’s never shown being present in the real world by just forcing his way out of the tv show. And since Wile always has terrible luck that constantly backfires on him, and that Tom has plenty of ways to manipulate probability and causality in his favor and at the expense of others, then the chances of the single and already slim wincon of Wile just makes his odds next to impossible.
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