>>512520883
i been through the trials lad - done the research, tried a few things, short of a full on machine thats the best i've found over the years, prefer it over the old bean to cup i had

been using that moka for a while now

>>512520884
I can get good results, got my grinder, found the beans i like literally lidl italian espresso beans, green and white pack, strength 4 - don't knock it until you try them

never got on with french press desu, do have one for work but prefer the moka

moka takes about 5 mins end to end