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6/12/2025, 9:44:23 AM
>>17756828
I have never seen anyone move the goalposts on this kind of demand in my entire life of talking about this subject. But let's try. I have Codex Frisingensis and Codex Legionensis as two very old Old Latin manuscripts with the verse. I have four citations by various ancient writers, one in Greek: Origen, Selecta in Psalmos, Ps. 123 (122); and three in Latin: Cyprian, On the Unity of the Church, AD 251, paragraph 6 (linked here >>17756813), Cyprian, Letter to Iubaianus 12.2, and Tertullian, Adversus Praxean, c. 213, ch. 25. And I have Codex Montfortianus (MS 61) and MS 629, as well as the manuscript Stephanus used in his second TR edition, as Greek manuscript sources. Montfortianus was what Erasmus seems to have used, but it had an unusual form compared to MS 629 and Stephanus' source text. So there you go, some primary sources for 1 John 5:7.
Hopefully that list of sources helps you out, anon. It's actually got some good support compared to some of the other TR passages of interest, such as the longer version of Acts 10:6 or the longer version of Hebrews 12:20.
I have never seen anyone move the goalposts on this kind of demand in my entire life of talking about this subject. But let's try. I have Codex Frisingensis and Codex Legionensis as two very old Old Latin manuscripts with the verse. I have four citations by various ancient writers, one in Greek: Origen, Selecta in Psalmos, Ps. 123 (122); and three in Latin: Cyprian, On the Unity of the Church, AD 251, paragraph 6 (linked here >>17756813), Cyprian, Letter to Iubaianus 12.2, and Tertullian, Adversus Praxean, c. 213, ch. 25. And I have Codex Montfortianus (MS 61) and MS 629, as well as the manuscript Stephanus used in his second TR edition, as Greek manuscript sources. Montfortianus was what Erasmus seems to have used, but it had an unusual form compared to MS 629 and Stephanus' source text. So there you go, some primary sources for 1 John 5:7.
Hopefully that list of sources helps you out, anon. It's actually got some good support compared to some of the other TR passages of interest, such as the longer version of Acts 10:6 or the longer version of Hebrews 12:20.
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