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6/16/2025, 2:18:03 AM
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Thanks a lot!
>Amaterasu may have been an important god before Kojiki established cannon
Absolutely. I've read a theory that the various kami that get called "Myojin" were at some point actually considered sun deities among their current roles. The include off the top of my head Sarutahiko and the Suwa kami.
>some people believed the Iwato Cave myth originally came from this region, probably this very mountain
Right, so the cave-like shrine dedicated to Amaterasu would probably be considered by some to be the cave where she hid herself. I have to say, it had a very powerful presence. I have seen a video where a guy check out the cave, but somehow I felt like going inside would have been really disrespectful so I didn't.
>I don't know any Ise Jingu other than the famous shrine.
Yeah you are right, that was a terminology confusion from me. The thing I meant was Jingu Taima. If I had wanted to, I could have slipped money into the box and just yoinked essentially Amaterasu's ofuda for myself. I didn't do that, but I did it for the ofuda of the kami of the mountain. I'm going to Ise at the end of the journey, so if I feel like it, I can most likely get a Jingu Taima from there. So far I've had no problem getting various ofuda.
>Yes, indeed it could be translated like that.
Oh cool, that is a very fascinating name to have, especially considering some of the more fringe myths surrounding the area...
>Anyway, if you ever hand me some pic from the Shika no Kuni booklet, I can translate it to you.
Thanks a lot, I will get around doing this when I have a chance!
>he wasn't sure the enacting of the Shuwa rites was wholly faithful to the actual ones from long ago
It would be very interesting to know what they based the reconstruction on and when it was performed. I think it might be a case where the gist of it is true, but details lost to time in the sense it was some transmission of the local way of life which included offerings to the ohoori messengers of the kami.
Thanks a lot!
>Amaterasu may have been an important god before Kojiki established cannon
Absolutely. I've read a theory that the various kami that get called "Myojin" were at some point actually considered sun deities among their current roles. The include off the top of my head Sarutahiko and the Suwa kami.
>some people believed the Iwato Cave myth originally came from this region, probably this very mountain
Right, so the cave-like shrine dedicated to Amaterasu would probably be considered by some to be the cave where she hid herself. I have to say, it had a very powerful presence. I have seen a video where a guy check out the cave, but somehow I felt like going inside would have been really disrespectful so I didn't.
>I don't know any Ise Jingu other than the famous shrine.
Yeah you are right, that was a terminology confusion from me. The thing I meant was Jingu Taima. If I had wanted to, I could have slipped money into the box and just yoinked essentially Amaterasu's ofuda for myself. I didn't do that, but I did it for the ofuda of the kami of the mountain. I'm going to Ise at the end of the journey, so if I feel like it, I can most likely get a Jingu Taima from there. So far I've had no problem getting various ofuda.
>Yes, indeed it could be translated like that.
Oh cool, that is a very fascinating name to have, especially considering some of the more fringe myths surrounding the area...
>Anyway, if you ever hand me some pic from the Shika no Kuni booklet, I can translate it to you.
Thanks a lot, I will get around doing this when I have a chance!
>he wasn't sure the enacting of the Shuwa rites was wholly faithful to the actual ones from long ago
It would be very interesting to know what they based the reconstruction on and when it was performed. I think it might be a case where the gist of it is true, but details lost to time in the sense it was some transmission of the local way of life which included offerings to the ohoori messengers of the kami.
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