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7/15/2025, 8:08:36 AM
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>They're not, though. Especially not gods, who're in 2E explicitly stated to not be the embodiments of their domains, just their overseers.
I forget the minutae of the setting, but from what I recall by the virtue of the fact they *can* be overseers of those domains, they still are tightly ontologically linked with that domain such that the killing of the UCS would cause a deprivation of virtue in the world, enabling a further overrun of the Ebon Dragon and further evil/creatures of darkness into the world. See: Return of the Scarlet Empress and the consequences thereof.
>That's what the UCS told Panther when he Exalted in Caste Book: Zenith. How is telling other Zeniths the same thing "a complete and utter reversal of tone"?
With the full lead-up to the shared quote in Panther's 1E Exaltation, where the UCS talks about it has a very different vibe. It's surrounding a story of a man born into poverty and fartherlessness who has lived only violence and thievery being called to redemption.
Compare this to what the UCS said to Perfect Soul on her exaltation. Pic related.
Note also the dev notes around 3E's Perfect Soul
"In other words, righteousness in Exalted is not decided by a moral arbiter, but rather right action is determined by those who are powerful enough to never be gainsaid. Righteousness is for the unconquered hero, whose victorious hand pens the histories. If the King of Heaven sees himself as the divine will that decides right and wrong, and those who deny this yet cannot turn him from his courses, then whatever he says is righteous, is righteous."
Almost all media nowadays pushes this same trite relativism. Why bother being any other kind of good if being good is just a matter of force?
>They're not, though. Especially not gods, who're in 2E explicitly stated to not be the embodiments of their domains, just their overseers.
I forget the minutae of the setting, but from what I recall by the virtue of the fact they *can* be overseers of those domains, they still are tightly ontologically linked with that domain such that the killing of the UCS would cause a deprivation of virtue in the world, enabling a further overrun of the Ebon Dragon and further evil/creatures of darkness into the world. See: Return of the Scarlet Empress and the consequences thereof.
>That's what the UCS told Panther when he Exalted in Caste Book: Zenith. How is telling other Zeniths the same thing "a complete and utter reversal of tone"?
With the full lead-up to the shared quote in Panther's 1E Exaltation, where the UCS talks about it has a very different vibe. It's surrounding a story of a man born into poverty and fartherlessness who has lived only violence and thievery being called to redemption.
Compare this to what the UCS said to Perfect Soul on her exaltation. Pic related.
Note also the dev notes around 3E's Perfect Soul
"In other words, righteousness in Exalted is not decided by a moral arbiter, but rather right action is determined by those who are powerful enough to never be gainsaid. Righteousness is for the unconquered hero, whose victorious hand pens the histories. If the King of Heaven sees himself as the divine will that decides right and wrong, and those who deny this yet cannot turn him from his courses, then whatever he says is righteous, is righteous."
Almost all media nowadays pushes this same trite relativism. Why bother being any other kind of good if being good is just a matter of force?
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