>>149730721
according to some they always were
>>149730633
>I think that the hyperfocus on extracting the 'best' feats has led to how things are now where people are arguing over interpretations of the highest feats of characters only.
>no limits man
they don't even come close to doing this with superman, what anti-feat people don't get (other than he does have training arcs so an anti-feat from 1992 wouldn't contradict a feat from 2004) is that the low-multiversal, could damage 5D beings with enough sundips version is the considerate midball version of scaling. Superman once crashed through soulfire darkseid (darkseid amped with a cache of souls taken by the presence), he overpowers Lobo who can fight and kills teams of gods in the godsphere, he once destroyed Lady Blaze's domain in hell and it was so strong Raven felt it on Earth and said it was something she thought only Trigon could do, he once flew through the phantom stranger and stranger said the physical attack could affect his metaphysical form and realized superman is a supernatural epicenter of belief similar to deities in DC. The thing people gotta realize is that you guys haven't even seen people wank superman, you're seeing them try to low or midball superman.