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6/11/2025, 11:05:33 PM
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>as a protestant??
That post was my first post in this thread so, maybe another anon, or are you speaking for your self? I was raised atheist and read the Bible for my own curiosity when I was 29.
I think the only corruption free Christian Church is the Ethiopian Orthodox Christian.
As to your other points, lets discuss them;
Firstly I would agree, that 90% of practitioners on both sides are just going with the flow but not in the way the Tao would recommend. However, I tried to separate my morals from the dogma of the church, at least in my post.
The human intellect can not grasp the fullness of God the Father, however it can understand and emulate the life and philosophy of Jesus Christ. This alone gives more weight to the Christian system for presenting a more relatable end state.
>Do you have any examples of Christian concepts that don't find their analogue in other traditions
Yes. The focus on 2 major points. Forgiveness as a key aspect of your life. And that salvation lies open to all. Not a specific sect of "chosen" people, but to All of us.
And those are the two defining factors of Christianity. You mention the "original sin" aspect of Genesis, and the shame/guilt cycle presented by the Catholic and other Churches is a distortion of the message of the Bible.
That message of course, is that life is worth living. And that God is not finished.
The original nature of man is not my concern honestly, we are living in the hear and now, and the origins of the universe are remote and unknowable. I want
as to your point about
>the Taoist's view of the authentic man
Yes and no, the truly good man, does not go out and try to do good, he simply is. I think that there is merit in the ideas presented about returning to stillness, the un-carved block. That there isn't a need to "correct" everything, as is presented in the opposing philosophies of Confucianisms is apparent by the ideologically superiority of the Tao compared to, it or Buddhism. But I think to your point
> the inexhaustible phenomenological disposition at the mysterious living core of Tao
That is love, that is Jesus Christ, that energy is not outward it is inward, that energy is in your heart. You are you're own worst enemy and you are the adversary that stands in your way. And truly it is a gift to forgive others.
My first read through Thomas wasn't anything noteworthy but, as I said, the interlinear Greek shows a different story, the English translations are all junk. They try to polish his speech to much, the ironic musings are lost.
I think, that any system that leads you to a more spiritual life has value, and I do still think there is merit in Taoism. But it lacks the compassion and accessibility that is there with Christs message.
Christ lays open the way to God the Father, and the best way to live your life, in a way that Taoism does not.
>as a protestant??
That post was my first post in this thread so, maybe another anon, or are you speaking for your self? I was raised atheist and read the Bible for my own curiosity when I was 29.
I think the only corruption free Christian Church is the Ethiopian Orthodox Christian.
As to your other points, lets discuss them;
Firstly I would agree, that 90% of practitioners on both sides are just going with the flow but not in the way the Tao would recommend. However, I tried to separate my morals from the dogma of the church, at least in my post.
The human intellect can not grasp the fullness of God the Father, however it can understand and emulate the life and philosophy of Jesus Christ. This alone gives more weight to the Christian system for presenting a more relatable end state.
>Do you have any examples of Christian concepts that don't find their analogue in other traditions
Yes. The focus on 2 major points. Forgiveness as a key aspect of your life. And that salvation lies open to all. Not a specific sect of "chosen" people, but to All of us.
And those are the two defining factors of Christianity. You mention the "original sin" aspect of Genesis, and the shame/guilt cycle presented by the Catholic and other Churches is a distortion of the message of the Bible.
That message of course, is that life is worth living. And that God is not finished.
The original nature of man is not my concern honestly, we are living in the hear and now, and the origins of the universe are remote and unknowable. I want
as to your point about
>the Taoist's view of the authentic man
Yes and no, the truly good man, does not go out and try to do good, he simply is. I think that there is merit in the ideas presented about returning to stillness, the un-carved block. That there isn't a need to "correct" everything, as is presented in the opposing philosophies of Confucianisms is apparent by the ideologically superiority of the Tao compared to, it or Buddhism. But I think to your point
> the inexhaustible phenomenological disposition at the mysterious living core of Tao
That is love, that is Jesus Christ, that energy is not outward it is inward, that energy is in your heart. You are you're own worst enemy and you are the adversary that stands in your way. And truly it is a gift to forgive others.
My first read through Thomas wasn't anything noteworthy but, as I said, the interlinear Greek shows a different story, the English translations are all junk. They try to polish his speech to much, the ironic musings are lost.
I think, that any system that leads you to a more spiritual life has value, and I do still think there is merit in Taoism. But it lacks the compassion and accessibility that is there with Christs message.
Christ lays open the way to God the Father, and the best way to live your life, in a way that Taoism does not.
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