>see r/uk thread about "young men live with parents, young women don't"
>see comments
>buncha "incels"
>some using actual danger rhetoric/minorities and wimmen getting gibs
>a bunch of soiboys saying "My industry is male dominated and it DOES need to hire women over men and if we do change the system to help men it MUSTN'T disincentivise women"
>some women or trans or whatever saying men doing bad is men's fault and that we still live in a patriarchy

>see two men(?) arguing over if men are just lazy
>male one: everything sucks, everyone else gets it for free, I even have to take care of , I don't want to try
>male two: you need to keep trying, I did temp jobs such as seasonal warehouse work and took two years to save up for driving lessons, then I spent years travelling the country in a shitty car to get my first nine-to-five
That's really depressing.
Imagine if no men gave up, that one who struggled for years to get a real job would find another man took it.