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5/11/2024, 1:55:50 AM
>>10913817
>>10913820
I think that it is willfully ignorant to deny the obvious inspirations that Eastern gyaru takes from Western fashion trends, which are fundamentally identical to gyaru in every meaningful way. I have posted countless, and I mean countless examples over the years, illustrating the exact extent of these similarities, only to have them repeatedly ignored by people looking to perpetuate a narrative of supposed originality and "feminism." It is very clear that "Gyaru" and the American bimbo are the same creature... Or at least, kissing cousins. I was really determined NOT to post any Jersey Shore content this thread, because it is just such low hanging fruit at this point... But, eh, what the fuck. One more, for old time's sake! Jersey Shore Coastal is gyaru. California style is gyaru. Gyaru is hardly an original fashion, and it's not even original at defying the convention of the "yamato nadeshiko," which is what you're referencing.
Let me ask you this: Assuming I believe that you really are an Original Galster (and I do,) can you point to a single instance where the English word "feminism," or a near-exact Japanese equivalent of the term, occurs in any gyaru magazine prior to the year 2008? Alternatively, I'd also accept if you could point to instances of terms which paint a clear, subcultural awareness of a meta-purpose to the fashion (ie: "defying beauty standards.") If you can do that, I'll honestly nod my head. Maybe we won't totally agree, but I'll at least admit that you might be onto something, and that you may have a point.
If you can't, then this claim is really all bupkiss, isn't it? I simply do not accept such a broad definition of feminism. What is so "feminist" about some gyaru girl in highschool chasing boys and doing prostitution? Does that activity advance women in any way? If that is the case, then why is it so important that this misanthropic label be applied to your fashion hobby?
>>10913820
I think that it is willfully ignorant to deny the obvious inspirations that Eastern gyaru takes from Western fashion trends, which are fundamentally identical to gyaru in every meaningful way. I have posted countless, and I mean countless examples over the years, illustrating the exact extent of these similarities, only to have them repeatedly ignored by people looking to perpetuate a narrative of supposed originality and "feminism." It is very clear that "Gyaru" and the American bimbo are the same creature... Or at least, kissing cousins. I was really determined NOT to post any Jersey Shore content this thread, because it is just such low hanging fruit at this point... But, eh, what the fuck. One more, for old time's sake! Jersey Shore Coastal is gyaru. California style is gyaru. Gyaru is hardly an original fashion, and it's not even original at defying the convention of the "yamato nadeshiko," which is what you're referencing.
Let me ask you this: Assuming I believe that you really are an Original Galster (and I do,) can you point to a single instance where the English word "feminism," or a near-exact Japanese equivalent of the term, occurs in any gyaru magazine prior to the year 2008? Alternatively, I'd also accept if you could point to instances of terms which paint a clear, subcultural awareness of a meta-purpose to the fashion (ie: "defying beauty standards.") If you can do that, I'll honestly nod my head. Maybe we won't totally agree, but I'll at least admit that you might be onto something, and that you may have a point.
If you can't, then this claim is really all bupkiss, isn't it? I simply do not accept such a broad definition of feminism. What is so "feminist" about some gyaru girl in highschool chasing boys and doing prostitution? Does that activity advance women in any way? If that is the case, then why is it so important that this misanthropic label be applied to your fashion hobby?
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