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I created Mary when Outdoor Retreat was released and we were well into the TS4 era after /s3g/ turned into /tsg/

Norman predates both version of the generals, and I posted his TS3 version extensively in /s3g/. I very rarely post him anymore since I got bored of him and ended his plot line in my game years ago

I see Lyidaanon has been posting Lydia recently, too. Lydia had a TS3 version in /s3g/ as well