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I didn't say anything like that. I'm saying that, with half of juryo having been proven to have been cheating, it is not unreasonable to speculate that others cheated but were not caught. Not necessarily many, not necessary few either - how do you know? That's the real tragedy of match fixing happening at all.

My opinion on Takanoyama is that he went Ms2e 5-2 -> J5w, so there's no reason to take most of the wildly fluctuating 2011 banzuke rankings as indications of skill.