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I'd say decently often I can suicide or at least put myself low enough that the other guy doesn't waste TOO much time just sitting there comboing.
Also you can VERY easily get to 5, though you can stick to 4 if you don't want to craft drident. You just normal summon a Zoo and bam.

Obviously you want to go first to just turbo it asap. Also also people WILL ash the pendulum spell even though only suicide ever runs it