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7/17/2025, 6:13:46 AM
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Yep, I will die on the hill the ideas of Liminals need to be folded into Abyssals because ever since their creation they have just not been working out thematically. Being nega-solars was shit and never worked because making something just something else with a different coat of paint will just invariably invite comparisons between the two with fans of either being annoyed unless they are perfectly equal (in which case they are just the same thing).
They can absolutely be corrupted Solars, that is fine, but they really need their own thing. 3E trying to do the whole deathlords charms just reeks of them trying to take yet another thing from Infernals because their Jimmies are eternally rustled by that splat’s existence. Abyssals really needed to better work in the whole death and entropy thing than the fucking retarded “chivilary of death” nonsense. Death knights are boring, maybe not universally, but in the setting of Exalted they are. This is a setting that absolutely defines its identity on being esoteric and their is nothing esoteric about death knights.
On the other hand, if we were to mix in the Liminal themes to Abyssals and make them walking nightmares of death and entropy only capable of existing in the world of the living by stealing the life energy and very parts that make up the living, then that would be fucking awesome. Make them feel like something out of a nightmare where no matter what you do they seem unaffected by it and just keep coming. Make them work against things not by brute forcing it ala Solars, but by just wearing it down mechanically. Make their progression in some way tied to the parts and life they steal from the living ala Liminals. It would be great. But no, we can’t have nice things; just boring basic bitch Abyssals that are still just as boring as ever.
Yep, I will die on the hill the ideas of Liminals need to be folded into Abyssals because ever since their creation they have just not been working out thematically. Being nega-solars was shit and never worked because making something just something else with a different coat of paint will just invariably invite comparisons between the two with fans of either being annoyed unless they are perfectly equal (in which case they are just the same thing).
They can absolutely be corrupted Solars, that is fine, but they really need their own thing. 3E trying to do the whole deathlords charms just reeks of them trying to take yet another thing from Infernals because their Jimmies are eternally rustled by that splat’s existence. Abyssals really needed to better work in the whole death and entropy thing than the fucking retarded “chivilary of death” nonsense. Death knights are boring, maybe not universally, but in the setting of Exalted they are. This is a setting that absolutely defines its identity on being esoteric and their is nothing esoteric about death knights.
On the other hand, if we were to mix in the Liminal themes to Abyssals and make them walking nightmares of death and entropy only capable of existing in the world of the living by stealing the life energy and very parts that make up the living, then that would be fucking awesome. Make them feel like something out of a nightmare where no matter what you do they seem unaffected by it and just keep coming. Make them work against things not by brute forcing it ala Solars, but by just wearing it down mechanically. Make their progression in some way tied to the parts and life they steal from the living ala Liminals. It would be great. But no, we can’t have nice things; just boring basic bitch Abyssals that are still just as boring as ever.
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