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6/15/2025, 2:26:13 PM
As some have alluded to ITT, often the loudest voices about the Troubles know very little about it. People often don't actually know very much about how it started, how it escalated, or how it ended.
Some things many don't know for example:
>The IRA and UDA/UVF worked together at times to root out uncooperative members of each others organisations
>Monetary support from the USA was negligible when compared with what the IRA got for elsewhere
>Many early Loyalist leaders accredited with "starting the Troubles" did a political 180 while in prison. Gusty Spence (leader of the UVF) had become completely disillusiuoned with it by the early 1970s, and left the UVF in 1978
>The Provos forcibly broke up the Irish People's Liberation Organisation (IPLO) due to it getting involved in the Drug Trade-killing their leaders and warning their members to dissolve the group. The PIRA had a general aversion to anything that undermined their ""legitimacy"" as a political movement.
>In 1998, an Irish Nationalist party (SDLP) won more votes than any other party in Northern Ireland. They were vehemently anti-IRA.
Generally if you meet someone who is of the opinion that:
>The IRA (see: Provos) were noble and unilaterally correct revolutionaries who did nothing wrong>
>Loyalists were simply defending their communities against the IRA
>Britain should have [retarded mega-escalation]
then they are probably just here to farm slop to take over to /int/ or /pol/.
Some things many don't know for example:
>The IRA and UDA/UVF worked together at times to root out uncooperative members of each others organisations
>Monetary support from the USA was negligible when compared with what the IRA got for elsewhere
>Many early Loyalist leaders accredited with "starting the Troubles" did a political 180 while in prison. Gusty Spence (leader of the UVF) had become completely disillusiuoned with it by the early 1970s, and left the UVF in 1978
>The Provos forcibly broke up the Irish People's Liberation Organisation (IPLO) due to it getting involved in the Drug Trade-killing their leaders and warning their members to dissolve the group. The PIRA had a general aversion to anything that undermined their ""legitimacy"" as a political movement.
>In 1998, an Irish Nationalist party (SDLP) won more votes than any other party in Northern Ireland. They were vehemently anti-IRA.
Generally if you meet someone who is of the opinion that:
>The IRA (see: Provos) were noble and unilaterally correct revolutionaries who did nothing wrong>
>Loyalists were simply defending their communities against the IRA
>Britain should have [retarded mega-escalation]
then they are probably just here to farm slop to take over to /int/ or /pol/.
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