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6/14/2025, 11:51:44 PM
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>Yeah, it's a whole, and also doesn't contradict.
Agreed. Scripture is unified and inerrant. But non-contradiction doesn’t mean flat literalism. It means harmony in truth, even across layers of meaning. Paul’s teaching on original sin complements his views on personal guilt. It does not contradict them. You're trying to force a false binary.
>Sin nature, biblical concept.
Sure, but sin nature without original guilt is like describing symptoms without admitting the disease. Paul doesn’t just say we tend toward sin. He says we’re born under its reign (Rom 5:17-19). That’s more than moral weakness. That’s legal and spiritual alienation requiring redemption.
>The canon was realized, not decided
God authored the Scriptures, yes. But humans recognized which books belonged, through the guidance of the Holy Spirit. The canon didn’t self-assemble. If you trust Titus 1:3, great. But that preaching was preserved and clarified through the Church. That’s the same Church that warned against spurious writings and defined the limits of Scripture in the 4th century.
>The KJV is based on authentic manuscripts
Respectfully, this is revisionist. The KJV relies heavily on the 'Textus Receptus,' which itself was compiled from a limited manuscript base in the 16th century. Not heretical, but hardly the sole standard of fidelity. The early Church had no KJV. They had tradition, Greek, Latin, and apostolic teaching.
>Not according to John 16:13
The Spirit leads the Church into truth, not every individual reader into their personal infallible theology. Otherwise, you end up with 40,000 denominations, all claiming the Spirit.
>no prophecy...is of private interpretation
Exactly. That’s why you need the interpretive authority of the Church, not just private judgment.
>One is your Master, even Christ
Amen. But Christ entrusted His teaching to apostles, who then ordained successors. That’s not rabbinic pride, but apostolic order.
>Yeah, it's a whole, and also doesn't contradict.
Agreed. Scripture is unified and inerrant. But non-contradiction doesn’t mean flat literalism. It means harmony in truth, even across layers of meaning. Paul’s teaching on original sin complements his views on personal guilt. It does not contradict them. You're trying to force a false binary.
>Sin nature, biblical concept.
Sure, but sin nature without original guilt is like describing symptoms without admitting the disease. Paul doesn’t just say we tend toward sin. He says we’re born under its reign (Rom 5:17-19). That’s more than moral weakness. That’s legal and spiritual alienation requiring redemption.
>The canon was realized, not decided
God authored the Scriptures, yes. But humans recognized which books belonged, through the guidance of the Holy Spirit. The canon didn’t self-assemble. If you trust Titus 1:3, great. But that preaching was preserved and clarified through the Church. That’s the same Church that warned against spurious writings and defined the limits of Scripture in the 4th century.
>The KJV is based on authentic manuscripts
Respectfully, this is revisionist. The KJV relies heavily on the 'Textus Receptus,' which itself was compiled from a limited manuscript base in the 16th century. Not heretical, but hardly the sole standard of fidelity. The early Church had no KJV. They had tradition, Greek, Latin, and apostolic teaching.
>Not according to John 16:13
The Spirit leads the Church into truth, not every individual reader into their personal infallible theology. Otherwise, you end up with 40,000 denominations, all claiming the Spirit.
>no prophecy...is of private interpretation
Exactly. That’s why you need the interpretive authority of the Church, not just private judgment.
>One is your Master, even Christ
Amen. But Christ entrusted His teaching to apostles, who then ordained successors. That’s not rabbinic pride, but apostolic order.
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