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7/12/2025, 5:51:25 PM
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Why would it be self-refuting? Our species has ascended from painting on cave walls with its waste to us now holding conversations on the internet, presumably across the globe. Illnesses and injuries that would have killed us now rarely spell a death sentence, and we are able to express ourselves more and more freely. We more than possess the means to do so, and we have always been racing towards it. The issue lies in keeping our potential steadily aimed at creating our own Garden of Eden. Doing so is human nature, just as struggling with it is.
As for the previous Garden of Eden, I do not think it was ruined by human nature. Escape from it was necessary, and it is this escape that has allowed both you and I to exist. Otherwise, and this depends on your interpretation of the affair in Eden, Adam and Eve, possibly Lilith, would have been the only humans to ever live. If God were to have created others afterwards, it's very possible that neither you nor I would exist, or at least not in this form.
I know this appeals to you. I prefer existing to not-existing, however.
I don't mean to insult you with this, but everything else you have said sounds like you are incredibly depressed, Anon. I understand that with your position, there is almost no other option left because you long for elsewhere, not here. The homeless man, the cripple, the man with zits on his face, all of these are people who may not exist in such a miserable and hurt state, had we built our Garden of Eden to make such fates an impossibility.
Still, life is there to be experienced and enjoyed in all that it has to offer. I don't think you have seen my first and second thread where I spoke exactly of all of these differences in attitude and how we are intrinsically wired for one or the other.
At least we can agree that most things are banal and boring, albeit for different reasons, I'm sure.
Why would it be self-refuting? Our species has ascended from painting on cave walls with its waste to us now holding conversations on the internet, presumably across the globe. Illnesses and injuries that would have killed us now rarely spell a death sentence, and we are able to express ourselves more and more freely. We more than possess the means to do so, and we have always been racing towards it. The issue lies in keeping our potential steadily aimed at creating our own Garden of Eden. Doing so is human nature, just as struggling with it is.
As for the previous Garden of Eden, I do not think it was ruined by human nature. Escape from it was necessary, and it is this escape that has allowed both you and I to exist. Otherwise, and this depends on your interpretation of the affair in Eden, Adam and Eve, possibly Lilith, would have been the only humans to ever live. If God were to have created others afterwards, it's very possible that neither you nor I would exist, or at least not in this form.
I know this appeals to you. I prefer existing to not-existing, however.
I don't mean to insult you with this, but everything else you have said sounds like you are incredibly depressed, Anon. I understand that with your position, there is almost no other option left because you long for elsewhere, not here. The homeless man, the cripple, the man with zits on his face, all of these are people who may not exist in such a miserable and hurt state, had we built our Garden of Eden to make such fates an impossibility.
Still, life is there to be experienced and enjoyed in all that it has to offer. I don't think you have seen my first and second thread where I spoke exactly of all of these differences in attitude and how we are intrinsically wired for one or the other.
At least we can agree that most things are banal and boring, albeit for different reasons, I'm sure.
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