Search Results
7/21/2025, 6:13:45 PM
6/12/2025, 1:17:52 AM
>>24459754
>it can understand and emulate the life and philosophy of Jesus Christ. This alone gives more weight to the Christian system
Where is the justification for this? If you just want to emulate an individual you wouldn't be much worse off if you just picked one from history or even a fictional one from a play or a novel, in fact that's literally what Jesus is, insofar as we know him.
>Forgiveness as a key aspect of your life
This is a part of every single religious tradition. Holding a grudge is impossible to justify in a transcendental sense.
>And that salvation lies open to all. Not a specific sect of "chosen" people
Also not exclusive to Christianity for obvious reasons.
>the shame/guilt cycle presented by the Catholic and other Churches is a distortion of the message of the Bible
Original Sin has little to do with shame or the psychology of man, except maybe on a derivative level. It has metaphysical significance that bleeds into (and indeed informs) every aspect of the Christian cosmology. I don't think you understand your own creed very well, to be honest.
>The original nature of man is not my concern honestly, we are living in the hear and now
We are living in the eternally returning origin. Christ says he is the Alpha and Omega, does he not?
>the origins of the universe are remote and unknowable
Wrong. The principle (from 'in principio creavit Deus caelum et terram' (Fun fact: The Chinese translations of John 1 say, In the beginning was the Dao....)) is nearer to us than the present moment in time, which latter is an abstraction of the concrete reality of the former.
To be unconcerned with the original nature of things is to be unable to let their essence enter into your intellect. The principle or dao has a moral imperative to be known, and indeed is the only moral imperative as such.
Jesus even calls himself the Way. I would say that to know Christ is to know the Way, rather than the Man, although the Man is known by knowing his Way.
>there isn't a need to "correct" everything
There is no need to do anything at all, but Taoism is morally relative, and sometimes the best course (free and easiest) is to correct things, as the Yellow Emperor, who is held up as an exemplar, often does in the Zhuangzi.
>That is love, that is Jesus Christ
Or any other enlightened individual (and doesn't Thomas affirm this?)
>But it lacks the compassion and accessibility that is there with Christs message
I would say Christ himself was perfectly compassionate, but Christianity is by and large not. The way to attain Christ's passions is to tread his Way. The Dao says that the sage 'treats others as straw dogs' and this is really the zenith of compassion if approached with a sober mind.
Still, I think we are more in agreement than not.
>it can understand and emulate the life and philosophy of Jesus Christ. This alone gives more weight to the Christian system
Where is the justification for this? If you just want to emulate an individual you wouldn't be much worse off if you just picked one from history or even a fictional one from a play or a novel, in fact that's literally what Jesus is, insofar as we know him.
>Forgiveness as a key aspect of your life
This is a part of every single religious tradition. Holding a grudge is impossible to justify in a transcendental sense.
>And that salvation lies open to all. Not a specific sect of "chosen" people
Also not exclusive to Christianity for obvious reasons.
>the shame/guilt cycle presented by the Catholic and other Churches is a distortion of the message of the Bible
Original Sin has little to do with shame or the psychology of man, except maybe on a derivative level. It has metaphysical significance that bleeds into (and indeed informs) every aspect of the Christian cosmology. I don't think you understand your own creed very well, to be honest.
>The original nature of man is not my concern honestly, we are living in the hear and now
We are living in the eternally returning origin. Christ says he is the Alpha and Omega, does he not?
>the origins of the universe are remote and unknowable
Wrong. The principle (from 'in principio creavit Deus caelum et terram' (Fun fact: The Chinese translations of John 1 say, In the beginning was the Dao....)) is nearer to us than the present moment in time, which latter is an abstraction of the concrete reality of the former.
To be unconcerned with the original nature of things is to be unable to let their essence enter into your intellect. The principle or dao has a moral imperative to be known, and indeed is the only moral imperative as such.
Jesus even calls himself the Way. I would say that to know Christ is to know the Way, rather than the Man, although the Man is known by knowing his Way.
>there isn't a need to "correct" everything
There is no need to do anything at all, but Taoism is morally relative, and sometimes the best course (free and easiest) is to correct things, as the Yellow Emperor, who is held up as an exemplar, often does in the Zhuangzi.
>That is love, that is Jesus Christ
Or any other enlightened individual (and doesn't Thomas affirm this?)
>But it lacks the compassion and accessibility that is there with Christs message
I would say Christ himself was perfectly compassionate, but Christianity is by and large not. The way to attain Christ's passions is to tread his Way. The Dao says that the sage 'treats others as straw dogs' and this is really the zenith of compassion if approached with a sober mind.
Still, I think we are more in agreement than not.
Page 1