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7/19/2025, 1:17:36 PM
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Really depends on what you mean by Dravidian, it's a very recent term and if you're using it on linguistic grounds then he and all South Indian Brahmins are Dravidians, and I find that usage more correct and acceptable. There is also a "Dravidian movement" which is on the surface linguistic but heavily mired with retarded ideas about race, and they consider Brahmins as not being Dravidians. If you get into questions of race (which are very recent) and genetics (which are brand new), the main line that Dravidianists parrot is that they're dark indigenes thrown South by the North Indian Arya, that Tamil is 3 gorillion years old, and that Brahmins are evil oppressors from the North or some shit, very anti-Hindu overall too.
The problem is that the Dravidian languages are probably not native to peninsular India, and proto-Dravidian was probably spoken in the Southern part of the IVC (the North may have had a different language), from where they migrated South and high caste Dravidians always have more IVC and therefore Neolithic Iranian ancestry than other Dravidians, because of which they're closer to North Indians than other Dravidian castes are, and Southern Brahmins are a mix of North Indian Brahmins and high caste Dravidians. The exceptions to this are groups found along the Western coast that are very IVC-shifted, the man you posted is from the South-Western coast of India from a group called Thiyya, some Thiyya are calculated as having 90-100% IVC ancestry with minimal additional AASI (there was of course a decent amount of AASI present in the IVC already) and steppe ancestry. Some claimed he's a "Paniya" who are almost 70% AASI, forest tribals who were recently turned Dalits, perhaps in the last 500 years, you can tell from his hairstyle though, that Puvrashikha/munkuduma, a type of shikha that was used primarily by the Thiyya, a few other people from the region, and some Southern Brahmins, that he isn't. Picrel is an actual Paniya, not bad at all.
Really depends on what you mean by Dravidian, it's a very recent term and if you're using it on linguistic grounds then he and all South Indian Brahmins are Dravidians, and I find that usage more correct and acceptable. There is also a "Dravidian movement" which is on the surface linguistic but heavily mired with retarded ideas about race, and they consider Brahmins as not being Dravidians. If you get into questions of race (which are very recent) and genetics (which are brand new), the main line that Dravidianists parrot is that they're dark indigenes thrown South by the North Indian Arya, that Tamil is 3 gorillion years old, and that Brahmins are evil oppressors from the North or some shit, very anti-Hindu overall too.
The problem is that the Dravidian languages are probably not native to peninsular India, and proto-Dravidian was probably spoken in the Southern part of the IVC (the North may have had a different language), from where they migrated South and high caste Dravidians always have more IVC and therefore Neolithic Iranian ancestry than other Dravidians, because of which they're closer to North Indians than other Dravidian castes are, and Southern Brahmins are a mix of North Indian Brahmins and high caste Dravidians. The exceptions to this are groups found along the Western coast that are very IVC-shifted, the man you posted is from the South-Western coast of India from a group called Thiyya, some Thiyya are calculated as having 90-100% IVC ancestry with minimal additional AASI (there was of course a decent amount of AASI present in the IVC already) and steppe ancestry. Some claimed he's a "Paniya" who are almost 70% AASI, forest tribals who were recently turned Dalits, perhaps in the last 500 years, you can tell from his hairstyle though, that Puvrashikha/munkuduma, a type of shikha that was used primarily by the Thiyya, a few other people from the region, and some Southern Brahmins, that he isn't. Picrel is an actual Paniya, not bad at all.
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