>>4433458
>>4433541
>>4433539
>You dont need focal length, You need skill.
>Whats a good camera for beginners?
BEGGINERS dont have skill. a begginer is going to fuck around on P mode for weeks

he literally said
>I want to take pictures of nearby birds (but I cant go up close to them)
this man would benefit from focal length

they are going to have a much harder/less fun time with under 500mm
my suggestion is $400 cheaper WITH 600mm and newer tech
how is it gearfaggotry if you're spending LESS on gear

>>4433487
>EOS 5D Mark II $290USD - 2008 release
>Canon EF 100-400mm $690USD - 1998 release
$980 total

>Panasonic G85 $322USD - 2016 release
>Olympus 75-300mm $250 - 2013 release
$570 total

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