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8/3/2025, 5:41:19 AM
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Have you even read either? Especially when you read Bacon, its spectacular seeing how clearly one single influential thinker set us on a course of events that, again and despite your refusal to admit it, has brought the planet to ecological and existential catastrophe. Descartes directly followed Bacon, only using "mastery" rather than dominion of nature.
And digital technologies from the start have been built with war and control in mind, and now they are being integrated into minds themselves on top of mass surveillance. Again, Bacon's bid to dominate nature is itself turning inwards to dominate man. If you actually bothered to read up on the origins of transhumanism, much less Strauss, you'd understand this, but its obvious you are a flagrant pseudo-intellectual zoomer.
>The Enlightenment in ethics still borrow a lot from the Ancients, i'm thinking of Descartes and Leibniz in particular.
Machiavelli ripped the moral ground out from under it before it even began, Bacon vainly tried to keep a Christian ethic to restrain technology, and the Hobbes ripped out what remained of that rug even further. The enlightenment led to mass disenchantment and eventual catastrophic wars that destroyed Europe.
>But since you think modern philosophy is inherently depraved or "hylic" you're likely a brown tradcuck incapable of any deep thought, your inclusion of a meme author like Strauss when we're discussing big names tells everything about your deflationary conception of philosophy
You're not even trying to deny it isn't. Go to a walmart and watch some Ukraine drone war footage let alone read up on the Holocaust, and you will see the ultimate fruits of modernity. That you immediately go for the racist anti-tradcuck meme just goes to show you are not serious about this and I highly suspect you actually havent read anything of Bacon or Descartes, much less of Strauss, who had a grasp of the entire western canon better than anyone and very clearly pinpointed that modernity is a vile abomination that ripped the ethical and spiritual core out of the west and has brought us to the edge of global totalitarianism.
No wonder the Unabomber sent bombs to people like you.
Have you even read either? Especially when you read Bacon, its spectacular seeing how clearly one single influential thinker set us on a course of events that, again and despite your refusal to admit it, has brought the planet to ecological and existential catastrophe. Descartes directly followed Bacon, only using "mastery" rather than dominion of nature.
And digital technologies from the start have been built with war and control in mind, and now they are being integrated into minds themselves on top of mass surveillance. Again, Bacon's bid to dominate nature is itself turning inwards to dominate man. If you actually bothered to read up on the origins of transhumanism, much less Strauss, you'd understand this, but its obvious you are a flagrant pseudo-intellectual zoomer.
>The Enlightenment in ethics still borrow a lot from the Ancients, i'm thinking of Descartes and Leibniz in particular.
Machiavelli ripped the moral ground out from under it before it even began, Bacon vainly tried to keep a Christian ethic to restrain technology, and the Hobbes ripped out what remained of that rug even further. The enlightenment led to mass disenchantment and eventual catastrophic wars that destroyed Europe.
>But since you think modern philosophy is inherently depraved or "hylic" you're likely a brown tradcuck incapable of any deep thought, your inclusion of a meme author like Strauss when we're discussing big names tells everything about your deflationary conception of philosophy
You're not even trying to deny it isn't. Go to a walmart and watch some Ukraine drone war footage let alone read up on the Holocaust, and you will see the ultimate fruits of modernity. That you immediately go for the racist anti-tradcuck meme just goes to show you are not serious about this and I highly suspect you actually havent read anything of Bacon or Descartes, much less of Strauss, who had a grasp of the entire western canon better than anyone and very clearly pinpointed that modernity is a vile abomination that ripped the ethical and spiritual core out of the west and has brought us to the edge of global totalitarianism.
No wonder the Unabomber sent bombs to people like you.
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