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I will remark that intelligence/consciousness is another misunderstood facet of this discussion; in just the last 2-3 decades we have realized even the simplest organisms (ants, rodents, birds) exhibit high level consciousness, able to make determinations about the intentions of other organisms, empathize, communicate without verbal frameworks, etc. This adds additional consideration that all life is inherently capable of human like intelligence but our limitations and culture has prevented us from achieving parity in communication necessary to develop an accurate understanding.
Consider that we have an existential and very real debacle facing our civilization, perhaps the most important one ever; we are in contact with a presence of unknown origin (assumed by some to by ETI or a breakaway civilization of modern humans.) One very logical conclusion to draw from this fact is that one or more of these past hominid/non-human/human civilizations achieved a technological singularity allowing them to leave earth, establish a long term automated presence, or remain hidden from us.
Consider also the possibility that the kind of civilizational emergence I've described may have occurred dozens or hundreds of times in the past, not just once. Use this logic in your reasoning.
Concede that human civilization is absolutely capable of or already has achieved this kind of singularity, and that humans are the only "intelligent" species we know of in the historical sense. This should radically influence our reasoning; if humans are 100% of the sample size of known civilizations and has achieved the singularity in the span of centuries or less, the odds that all civilizations emerging to arrive at a technological singularity that accomplishes the above should be adjusted.
I will remark that intelligence/consciousness is another misunderstood facet of this discussion; in just the last 2-3 decades we have realized even the simplest organisms (ants, rodents, birds) exhibit high level consciousness, able to make determinations about the intentions of other organisms, empathize, communicate without verbal frameworks, etc. This adds additional consideration that all life is inherently capable of human like intelligence but our limitations and culture has prevented us from achieving parity in communication necessary to develop an accurate understanding.
Consider that we have an existential and very real debacle facing our civilization, perhaps the most important one ever; we are in contact with a presence of unknown origin (assumed by some to by ETI or a breakaway civilization of modern humans.) One very logical conclusion to draw from this fact is that one or more of these past hominid/non-human/human civilizations achieved a technological singularity allowing them to leave earth, establish a long term automated presence, or remain hidden from us.
Consider also the possibility that the kind of civilizational emergence I've described may have occurred dozens or hundreds of times in the past, not just once. Use this logic in your reasoning.
Concede that human civilization is absolutely capable of or already has achieved this kind of singularity, and that humans are the only "intelligent" species we know of in the historical sense. This should radically influence our reasoning; if humans are 100% of the sample size of known civilizations and has achieved the singularity in the span of centuries or less, the odds that all civilizations emerging to arrive at a technological singularity that accomplishes the above should be adjusted.
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