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6/26/2025, 1:52:18 AM
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>Hajime couldn't have had an idea that the choice he makes with his own body would spiral into an apocalypse.
I don't think I blamed him for that at all in our entire discussion. My original argument is that he takes the easy way out, wastes his potential, and never achieves anything on his own.
>It's simply what happened.
And that's why I said it's not an argument? What simply happened was that Hajime needed others to give him a way out, even though thematically it's a way that only proves my statement that Hajime as someone who is dependent and never archived anything by himself.
>The only acceptable example you gave is him not bootstrapping himself out of the pit of despair in a situation purposefully crafted to break his spirit.
And when he was about to kill himself for not eating for a day and a half in Chapter 4, all the times Nagito had to whisper the answers to him in Chapter 3, when Chiaki had to tell him how to see the extra scene in Chapter 2, when he could never figure out who the traitor was on his own, when he needed Makoto and the group to save him from Junko, when Chiaki had to come back from the dead to tell him to stop being a wimp, when Mikan had to correct Twogami's cause of death because Hajime was broken by Nagito's revelation, etc. I can name a couple more. As I said, it's not about not depending on people, it's about being able to depend on yourself as well.
>It's a false equivalency.
Just like how Hajime can desire not to have talent and it's a path available to him. You know, do the best with the hand you were dealt with? He has many ways to achieve his dream, but we never see him working towards it. Nekomaru told him he had potential, but we ever see him discovering his potential for himself. Furthermore, his goal of ‘having talent’ is vague: does he want to feel special, be admired, be with Chiaki? None of those things require unique talent. His goals are unclear and lack consistency.
>Hajime couldn't have had an idea that the choice he makes with his own body would spiral into an apocalypse.
I don't think I blamed him for that at all in our entire discussion. My original argument is that he takes the easy way out, wastes his potential, and never achieves anything on his own.
>It's simply what happened.
And that's why I said it's not an argument? What simply happened was that Hajime needed others to give him a way out, even though thematically it's a way that only proves my statement that Hajime as someone who is dependent and never archived anything by himself.
>The only acceptable example you gave is him not bootstrapping himself out of the pit of despair in a situation purposefully crafted to break his spirit.
And when he was about to kill himself for not eating for a day and a half in Chapter 4, all the times Nagito had to whisper the answers to him in Chapter 3, when Chiaki had to tell him how to see the extra scene in Chapter 2, when he could never figure out who the traitor was on his own, when he needed Makoto and the group to save him from Junko, when Chiaki had to come back from the dead to tell him to stop being a wimp, when Mikan had to correct Twogami's cause of death because Hajime was broken by Nagito's revelation, etc. I can name a couple more. As I said, it's not about not depending on people, it's about being able to depend on yourself as well.
>It's a false equivalency.
Just like how Hajime can desire not to have talent and it's a path available to him. You know, do the best with the hand you were dealt with? He has many ways to achieve his dream, but we never see him working towards it. Nekomaru told him he had potential, but we ever see him discovering his potential for himself. Furthermore, his goal of ‘having talent’ is vague: does he want to feel special, be admired, be with Chiaki? None of those things require unique talent. His goals are unclear and lack consistency.
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