>>95861404
This is one of those things where I feel like mage players try and gaslight the party and the DM into believing it so they don't actually do it, not that it's actually true.

>AMF shuts down a fighter
>they still have 22-24 Strength
>Full BAB
>all their feats for their equipment and skills
>Their armor class is still at or above 20 naturally
>Still has their weapons that they can use to some effect, or even full effect if its mundane-extraordinary/alchemical

>Meanwhile, the caster has no flight, no teleportation, no AC buff, no protections, no contingencies, no utility, no invisibility, and no save-or-die fallback.

Yea, the fighter is in REAL trouble here guys!