>>521041289
what denomination are you?
Both Catholicism and Orthodoxy regard him as a Saint.
I like St. Michael
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>>520235206
>modern "christianity" already being a perversion of original Christianity
I agree with that.
>the Trinity was never meant to be taken as a unity (which is a canaanite obsession), always as a plurality
I don't really understand these kind of hyper-technical objections, I literally don't see the difference and suspect it's actually in service to some other Heresy.
There is no God but God. Separating aspects of God into distinct dualistic expressions is the foundation of Gnostic Heresy which is just Satanism--with all it's attendant inversions (God is bad, life is bad, children are bad, creation is bad, etc).
>Jesus is called the Son of Man by his contemporaries
and indeed he called himself that.
>so Jesus is just Enoch reincarnated (an interesting implication)
there's absolutely no textual evidence for that.
>and Enoch=Metatron was not God: just a sidekick (replacing samael=yahweh=satan after its fall)
and we're into the gnostic heresy, how did I guess.
>which implies Jesus was created, and separate from God, no matter his standing (equal to El's, but separate)
Jesus existed before he manifested on earth, he's the one wrestling with Jacob.
>that's what original Christians believed
that's an early Christian heresy, 1st-3rd century Gnostics.
>Jesus and his apostles would have been called heretics, at nicaea, lol
Jesus said he was God.
>same as jewry, modern "christianity" isn't even self coherent (save for the orthodox church, at least in large part)
Agree about Orthodox but your position on the trinity would put you in heresy there too.
>modern "christianity" already being a perversion of original Christianity
I agree with that.
>the Trinity was never meant to be taken as a unity (which is a canaanite obsession), always as a plurality
I don't really understand these kind of hyper-technical objections, I literally don't see the difference and suspect it's actually in service to some other Heresy.
There is no God but God. Separating aspects of God into distinct dualistic expressions is the foundation of Gnostic Heresy which is just Satanism--with all it's attendant inversions (God is bad, life is bad, children are bad, creation is bad, etc).
>Jesus is called the Son of Man by his contemporaries
and indeed he called himself that.
>so Jesus is just Enoch reincarnated (an interesting implication)
there's absolutely no textual evidence for that.
>and Enoch=Metatron was not God: just a sidekick (replacing samael=yahweh=satan after its fall)
and we're into the gnostic heresy, how did I guess.
>which implies Jesus was created, and separate from God, no matter his standing (equal to El's, but separate)
Jesus existed before he manifested on earth, he's the one wrestling with Jacob.
>that's what original Christians believed
that's an early Christian heresy, 1st-3rd century Gnostics.
>Jesus and his apostles would have been called heretics, at nicaea, lol
Jesus said he was God.
>same as jewry, modern "christianity" isn't even self coherent (save for the orthodox church, at least in large part)
Agree about Orthodox but your position on the trinity would put you in heresy there too.