>>520948288
>So, which are the lessons of the Syrian civil war in the military field?
Don't make truces with your enemy so they may rebuild or be propped up by foreign powers to attack you in the future, kill them all. It also reinforced the notion that large cities are the modern citadels, and that you either take them by storm while there are not enough motivated defenders, or they are doomed to become months long slugfests, but we already knew that from Leningrad, Stalingrad, etc.
>It was worth fighting?
I'd say generally it is worth fighting so that one's nation may become something greater, but that's just me looking at it from a nationalist point of view, different individuals see things differently. Assad's regime kept the jews at bay and the tribal and religious minorities of each others throats. Now that he's gone, the jews come and go through southern Syria as they please and have outright taken Mount Hermon, and every other week you hear about a syrian tribes killing each other. I can understand how people were unwilling to support Assad's regime on its last days, since the Syrian economy wasn't doing well (it relied heavily on oil extraction and the Syrian government never took back several oil fields that remained in rebel controled areas), but now that it's gone they'll have to deal with the instability that comes from having a weak central government in a multicultural and multireligious country. The fact that their neighbors will be biting at their heels all the while will also make any recovery much harder.
>Did the neocons won at the end?
They got most of what they wanted, but I don't think even them see it as the end of their ambitions in Syria.
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>>519640780
>any chances of you guys helping venezuela?
Slim to none, sadly. It would be on our best interest if the Americans broke their teeth against Venezuela, and Ideally, we'd support the Venezuelan government. That support could be economical, helping them move Venezuelan goods outside their country through ours, or outright military in nature, selling them weapons, or letting the Chinese or Russians do so thought our border, since they wouldn't be able to be supplied through sea in case of a conflict. The basic rationale of doing so being that there's no greater future for us under US hegemony, except one of perpetual servitude, and therefore anything that helps undermining it is on the medium and long term good for Brazil.
That said, this way of seeing things is still a fringe idea here. We are full of "patriots" whose idea of sovereignty is licking as much American boot as they can get their hands off, and that see international politics through the most simple lens that one can see through: the ideological sphere.
>Trump is le based conservative
>Maduro is le cringe socialist
>therefore, we should be clapping like seals at the prospect of the Americans coming to OUR continent, devastating our neighborhood, and we should even wish they come and do the same to our le cringe leftist government
It's sad, but millions of Brazilians think like this. These geopolitical illiterates don't understand that ideology is subordinate to other concerns, like economical and military power. The Americans that they hail as paragons of justice are perfectly willing to ignore the Israeli atrocities, or the Saudi government, and they do so because they perceive it to be in their best interest to do so. We ought to be able to do the same in regards to Venezuela.
>any chances of you guys helping venezuela?
Slim to none, sadly. It would be on our best interest if the Americans broke their teeth against Venezuela, and Ideally, we'd support the Venezuelan government. That support could be economical, helping them move Venezuelan goods outside their country through ours, or outright military in nature, selling them weapons, or letting the Chinese or Russians do so thought our border, since they wouldn't be able to be supplied through sea in case of a conflict. The basic rationale of doing so being that there's no greater future for us under US hegemony, except one of perpetual servitude, and therefore anything that helps undermining it is on the medium and long term good for Brazil.
That said, this way of seeing things is still a fringe idea here. We are full of "patriots" whose idea of sovereignty is licking as much American boot as they can get their hands off, and that see international politics through the most simple lens that one can see through: the ideological sphere.
>Trump is le based conservative
>Maduro is le cringe socialist
>therefore, we should be clapping like seals at the prospect of the Americans coming to OUR continent, devastating our neighborhood, and we should even wish they come and do the same to our le cringe leftist government
It's sad, but millions of Brazilians think like this. These geopolitical illiterates don't understand that ideology is subordinate to other concerns, like economical and military power. The Americans that they hail as paragons of justice are perfectly willing to ignore the Israeli atrocities, or the Saudi government, and they do so because they perceive it to be in their best interest to do so. We ought to be able to do the same in regards to Venezuela.
>>515777340
>Why are 4channers cheering for Russia to win the war?
The 30 years of uncontested American hegemony that came after the collapse of the USSR have been a disaster for the world. It could have been the birth of a new era of peace and prosperity, of multilateral cooperation and coexistence between different political units. Unfortunately, due greed, incompetence, and quite frankly inexperience since America had never been on that position before, they squandered it. They weren't content with "mere" power. They seeked to remake the world in their image. To make the whole world a homogenous blob, where the "nation state" is a thing of the past, and everybody is an employee and a consumer first, before everything else. Hijacked by a distinct jewish minority backed by people that were conditioned into supporting them no mather what, they would start wars that would benefit no one but rich weapons manufacturers and Israel, all while planitudes like "democracy" and freedom were being chanted. The Russian people, tired of decades of economic warfare, wanted nothing more than to be a part of the west. They would be held at arms lenght, lied to about NATO expansion, and plotted against in hopes of balkanizing their country and stealing their resources. The one hope for those that seek something better than servitude under America's leadership is multipolarity. The American leaderships in their incompetence have chosen to go all in on Ukraine, which in turn voluntarially chose to let itself be used as a tool of empire - out of ignorance, out of Innocence for they didn't know better, but also out of spite for Russia, out of self hate for their own history. So of course I suport Russia.
>do you actually have allegiance and benefits out of Russia winning?
I can make a post about that, if you want but I reached character limit on this post.
>Why are 4channers cheering for Russia to win the war?
The 30 years of uncontested American hegemony that came after the collapse of the USSR have been a disaster for the world. It could have been the birth of a new era of peace and prosperity, of multilateral cooperation and coexistence between different political units. Unfortunately, due greed, incompetence, and quite frankly inexperience since America had never been on that position before, they squandered it. They weren't content with "mere" power. They seeked to remake the world in their image. To make the whole world a homogenous blob, where the "nation state" is a thing of the past, and everybody is an employee and a consumer first, before everything else. Hijacked by a distinct jewish minority backed by people that were conditioned into supporting them no mather what, they would start wars that would benefit no one but rich weapons manufacturers and Israel, all while planitudes like "democracy" and freedom were being chanted. The Russian people, tired of decades of economic warfare, wanted nothing more than to be a part of the west. They would be held at arms lenght, lied to about NATO expansion, and plotted against in hopes of balkanizing their country and stealing their resources. The one hope for those that seek something better than servitude under America's leadership is multipolarity. The American leaderships in their incompetence have chosen to go all in on Ukraine, which in turn voluntarially chose to let itself be used as a tool of empire - out of ignorance, out of Innocence for they didn't know better, but also out of spite for Russia, out of self hate for their own history. So of course I suport Russia.
>do you actually have allegiance and benefits out of Russia winning?
I can make a post about that, if you want but I reached character limit on this post.