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i already told you i don't care about your reductionism and "genre origination" bullshit which is a meaningless conversation in music, nothing in the west actually does what kpop does, its its own thing. the west doesn't have "girlgroups" and the culture surrounding it like in kpop, telling me ice spice ft lil niggynoggy is the same as 7 girls singing and dancing because the instrumental has vaguely the same BPM and uses XYZ type samples when it doesn't even sound the same is retarded.