>>514777395
True. A lot of leathers are also ouds. I really like those, but only wear them in the house. They give off an incredible vibe, but it doesn't translate to social settings. Not that it ever comes up, but picrel would be my go-to ladykiller. Starts out spicy and floral but dries down to something more smooth and powdery. It's out of production last I checked but still widely available.