>>40049400
>Yea that's some of what I'm getting at/ if chadhons are attractive to people or not. Like someone who was a chad who transitions really poorly and so retains their chadness in a ridiculous way

iirc theres negative (seen as good) and positive (seen as bad) androgyny. negative androgyny is like twinkhons and fashion models who posses a lack of sex characteristics ie straight slim bodies, angular faces that are both masculine and feminine. positive androgny is having traits from both genders ie a hon with a beard shadow and a masculine physique but in a dress wearing makeup. this sharp of contrast of their masculine body and feminine presentation clashes and makes them lose whatever attractiveness they would've otherwise had.

> Also interesting you dislike the softness even as an aesthetic.

it's definitely a thing among androphiles to prefer women with sharp masculine features. it's not secret a that the fashion industry is ran by gay men and all the models have the same combo of lanky frame + angular face. i grew up obsessed with runway models so no surprises there for me!