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The problem with the examples you're asking for is that the practice of magic isn't understood down to the same granular, scientific level as something like mathematics, so there isn't some kind of get-magic-quick scheme that just universally works the same way for everyone. There is no governing body that has codified the rules. There are essentially just individuals who -think- they've got it all figured out but probably don't, and then there's individuals who -know- they don't have it all figured out but accept that it seems to work anyway.

I could tell you that most of my rites have been successes, but would you believe I'm telling the truth? And even if you thought I was truthful, would you really know if my experience was "magic" or was just a coincidence/hallucination? What sort of example would be a valid one to you?